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Pastor in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

Post by cronus » Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:40 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-33800704

Pastor James McConnell in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

An evangelical preacher who called Islam "satanic" and "heathen" should have every right to criticise other religions, a court has heard.

Pastor James McConnell appeared in court on charges relating to the internet broadcast of a sermon he gave at a Belfast church last year.
Belfast Magistrates' Court was told Pastor McConnell will be denying "moral or legal culpability" on the charges.

Several hundred people gathered outside the court in support of the preacher.

His solicitor said the 78-year-old "did not incite hatred or encourage violence against Muslims".

"He simply expressed his view about another religion, not in a personalised manner but in an entirely generalised way," he added.

(continued, Pervy Xianity calling the kettle Satanic....)
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Re: Pastor in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

Post by JimC » Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:03 am

Pot, meet kettle...
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Re: Pastor in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

Post by mistermack » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:24 am

No, I think he has a point.

There is a long and honourable tradition in the North of Ireland, of Pastors not inciting religious hatred.

He is just following in some very famous footsteps.
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Re: Pastor in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

Post by jamest » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:15 pm

Scumple wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-33800704

Pastor James McConnell in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

An evangelical preacher who called Islam "satanic" and "heathen" should have every right to criticise other religions, a court has heard.

Pastor James McConnell appeared in court on charges relating to the internet broadcast of a sermon he gave at a Belfast church last year.
Belfast Magistrates' Court was told Pastor McConnell will be denying "moral or legal culpability" on the charges.

Several hundred people gathered outside the court in support of the preacher.

His solicitor said the 78-year-old "did not incite hatred or encourage violence against Muslims".

"He simply expressed his view about another religion, not in a personalised manner but in an entirely generalised way," he added.

(continued, Pervy Xianity calling the kettle Satanic....)
Beliefs have no life except in the minds and hearts of people. It's the people who hold those beliefs close to their hearts who [may] do harm. In other words, you cannot berate a religion without making it personal. The solicitor's defence is fubar.

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Re: Pastor in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

Post by jamest » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:25 pm

Oh, as an aside, that's why I think that the rule at ratskep about being allowed to attack beliefs but not people, is fucking retarded.

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Post by JimC » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:21 pm

jamest wrote:Oh, as an aside, that's why I think that the rule at ratskep about being allowed to attack beliefs but not people, is fucking retarded.
What a fucking stupid belief to have ... :nono:
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Post by jamest » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:45 pm

JimC wrote:
jamest wrote:Oh, as an aside, that's why I think that the rule at ratskep about being allowed to attack beliefs but not people, is fucking retarded.
What a fucking stupid belief to have ... :nono:
To think that you'd have to believe that beliefs can have a life beyond the hearts and minds of people.

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Post by JimC » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:12 pm

Don't know about you, but my heart is a lump of meat that does a pumping job for me...
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Post by jamest » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:20 pm

JimC wrote:Don't know about you, but my heart is a lump of meat that does a pumping job for me...
Have you not watched The Wizard of Oz??

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Post by JimC » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:32 pm

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Post by jamest » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:39 pm

Oh, forgive me, I'm mixing you up with the withered of Oz.

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:48 pm

Take no notice of the man behind the cardigan. :tea:
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Re: Pastor in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

Post by jamest » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:00 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Take no notice of the man behind the cardigan. :tea:
The man behind the cardigan is usually a dark horse. Unless he's bought it at Marks and Spencers.

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:02 pm

jamest wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Take no notice of the man behind the cardigan. :tea:
The man behind the cardigan is usually a dark horse. Unless he's bought it at Marks and Spencers.
Yes. There's a world of difference between an M&S cardigan and an S&M cardigan. :tea:
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Re: Pastor in court over online 'satanic Islam' sermon

Post by jamest » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:11 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
jamest wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Take no notice of the man behind the cardigan. :tea:
The man behind the cardigan is usually a dark horse. Unless he's bought it at Marks and Spencers.
Yes. There's a world of difference between an M&S cardigan and an S&M cardigan. :tea:
You're obviously an expert on the matter.

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