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Re: Positive proof?

Post by Seth » Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:24 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:You can't prove that a supernatural god doesn't exist. That's what BG is properly referring to.
but there's no evidence of it existing either
Is there "no evidence" or are you perhaps simply ignorant of the evidence?
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:05 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:You can't prove that a supernatural god doesn't exist. That's what BG is properly referring to.
Begging the question fallacy. Your argument fails on the premise that "god" is "supernatural," a claim for which you have absolutely zero evidence in support of but which you assume is true as a premise of your argument. That's pure tautology.
Um no, actually your rebuttal is begging the question. I don't claim god is anything as I don't contend that god exists. But God in almost all religions is defined as a supernatural being. Most certainly so in Christianity, Islam and Judaism. BG is clearly referring to those. There's no begging the question. He's referring to a pre-defined god.
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by JimC » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:13 am

An interesting question would be to analyse the possible differences between a supernatural god and a non-supernatural god. Presumably the latter would be involved in a deistic world view, and the former in a theistic world view...
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by rainbow » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:01 am

rEvolutionist wrote:You can't prove that a supernatural god doesn't exist. That's what BG is properly referring to.
You can't prove Atheists exist.
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:03 am

Of course you can. You just need to find one. According to Seth, there's millions of them in the world.
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by rainbow » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:32 am

Rubbish.
There are people who *claim* to be "Atheists"
They are either deluded or lying.
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:43 am

Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by rainbow » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:48 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
Would you accept as evidence for God the testimony of people that have "felt the power of the Holy Spirit"?

If not, why not?
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:48 am

rainbow wrote:Rubbish.
There are people who *claim* to be "Atheists"
They are either deluded or lying.
you been in a foxhole too many? and what's the difference between Atheist and atheist already?
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:50 am

rainbow wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
Would you accept as evidence for God the testimony of people that have "felt the power of the Holy Spirit"?

If not, why not?
Does the testimony of the deluded and the insane carry weight in court?
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by rainbow » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:50 am

Svartalf wrote:
rainbow wrote:Rubbish.
There are people who *claim* to be "Atheists"
They are either deluded or lying.
you been in a foxhole too many? and what's the difference between Atheist and atheist already?
Atheists don't exist whereas atheists listen to Black Sabbath and eat babies
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by rainbow » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:52 am

Svartalf wrote:
rainbow wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
Would you accept as evidence for God the testimony of people that have "felt the power of the Holy Spirit"?

If not, why not?
Does the testimony of the deluded and the insane carry weight in court?
Can do. Is that why the courts have Bibles?
To keep out nutter "Atheists"?
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:53 am

:hehe: point to you :biggrin:
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:56 am

rainbow wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
Would you accept as evidence for God the testimony of people that have "felt the power of the Holy Spirit"?

If not, why not?
What does this have to do the logical inability to prove a supernatural god doesn't exist, or that you logically can prove that something exists?
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Re: Positive proof?

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:10 pm

Seth wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Seth wrote:... which is the Atheist's Fallacy in a nutshell...
Already debunked.
You've debunked nothing. The Atheist's Fallacy exists because it is simply irrational to draw a conclusion about the existence or non-existence of God based on what theists have to say about it. The logic should be obvious to one of your evident intelligence: If the claims of theists are misguided, inaccurate or just flatly wrong, then drawing a conclusion as to the non-existence (or indeed the existence) of God based upon those claims is completely irrational. I really don't understand why this is so hard for you to understand.
You always resort to impugning my cognitive abilities when you don't like what I have to say. Have you noticed that?

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