A Much Bigger Bunker Buster (New US Kit)

Post by **cronus** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:34 am

War....this is how to develop fast Mars technology.

Post by **Collector1337** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:26 am

There's no hiding from America.

We will find you.

And we will drop a bomb on you.

Post by **pErvinalia** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:29 am

Bring it Merka! My caravan can take all you've got!

Post by **cronus** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:34 am

Today I am an American too...

Post by **pErvinalia** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:07 am

Seth's gunna have to dig a basement in his bunker..

Post by **JimC** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:13 am

The WW2 British Grand Slam, as delivered by the Dam Busters did a pretty fair job...

Post by **piscator** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:24 pm

...for a bunch of pudwhacks who lacked the faith to carry out a kamikaze bombing...

Post by **klr** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:16 pm

JimC wrote:The WW2 British Grand Slam, as delivered by the Dam Busters did a pretty fair job...

Especially the live one that they left on display at the gates of a base until recently.

Post by **klr** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:17 pm

piscator wrote:...for a bunch of pudwhacks who lacked the faith to carry out a kamikaze bombing...

The one-time delivery system approach isn't really that efficient.

Post by **Calilasseia** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:46 pm

klr wrote:
JimC wrote:The WW2 British Grand Slam, as delivered by the Dam Busters did a pretty fair job...
Especially the live one that they left on display at the gates of a base until recently.

Ha ha ha ... I read the account of that. Trouble is, quite a few people who have actually worked for the RAF in the field of bomb disposal cite several reasons why the story doing the rounds of various Australian websites is, well, apocryphal. There was a standard procedure in place for dealing with live ordnance, which involved removing all fuses, detonators and similar equipment (very carefully I might add), then hooking up a steam generator to perform what is, in effect, an organic chemistry steam distillation of the explosives out of the casing. It would take a fair amount of time to steam distil 10 tons of Torpex out of the casing, but the bomb disposal people would probably have gone ahead anyway. The RAF would not have transported a live 10 ton bomb 200 miles along British roads, with the attendant risk of it detonating whilst the transporter was moving through any inhabited areas. Additionally, there's some dispute about the nature of the roadworks alleged to have taken place that purportedly started this particular ball rolling. For that matter, anyone genuinely selecting a Grand Slam bomb casing for a gate guardian, would pretty much make sure that it wasn't filled with 10 tons of live Torpex before it was propped up. It would be pretty obvious to whoever was doing the original mounting work, that something was amiss if it wasn't an empty casing.

If you want a really scary story, try the time the US Air Force dropped a live thermonuclear bomb on North Carolina. Well, actually, two were dropped. The Wikipedia page devoted to the incident even has photos of one of the bombs after it landed. There's a road marker commemorating the incident, in a masterful display of understatement, calling it a "Nuclear Mishap" ...

Of course, what the sign should be saying was "HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE NEARLY BLEW UP ONE OF THE CAROLINAS!"

Post by **klr** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:51 pm

Calilasseia wrote:
klr wrote:
JimC wrote:The WW2 British Grand Slam, as delivered by the Dam Busters did a pretty fair job...
Especially the live one that they left on display at the gates of a base until recently.
Ha ha ha ... I read the account of that. Trouble is, quite a few people who have actually worked for the RAF in the field of bomb disposal cite several reasons why the story doing the rounds of various Australian websites is, well, apocryphal.
...

Bugger, I was wondering why wiki didn't mention it. Anyway, thanks for clearing it up.

"Nuclear mishap"

Post by **Calilasseia** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:27 am

You can have fun working out what would have happened if that bomb had detonated courtesy of NukeMap.

Sadly, the 3d version using Google Earth, whilst it still works in Firefox, doesn't work in Google Chrome! (But it also works in Safari - go figure).

Post by **piscator** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:03 am

klr wrote:
piscator wrote:...for a bunch of pudwhacks who lacked the faith to carry out a kamikaze bombing...
The one-time delivery system approach isn't really that efficient.

Who cares if you win?

The right bunch of jihadis with some half-assed leadership would have cleared out all the hydropower in the Ruhr the last week of August, 1939. Jus sayin...

Post by **cronus** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:20 am

It's the British will to survive at any cost that won the war. Why the Americans got invited to fight, and dance with the ladies. Drones are the future though...and suit the English temperament for safe war-making.

Post by **piscator** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:04 am

No law against having a bit of style as you bring civilization to backwaters...

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