Black boxes. Another failure.

[mistermack]

It just so happened that he was in a position to kill 150 people, simply by turning a knob.
It's not homicidal mania.

Huh? Killing 150 people isn't homicidal mania?!? What fucking world do you live in??

A world where I at least know the meaning of the word mania. Unlike you, it seems. You need to look it up.

And Wikipedia says this about depression :

Hospitalization may be necessary in cases with associated self-neglect or a significant risk of harm to self or others.

[pErvinalia]

Your opinions are noted. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up, as shown by the head of the psychiatric association in the UK.

So, according to you, he was a non-maniac murderer. Great. Tell me again how that supports your point (whatever the fuck it was)? It doesn't change my point in the slightest. That is, this was first and foremost murder, not suicide, therefore blaming it on depression is lazy and frankly wrong.

[cronus]

He hadn't murdered anyone till he done the 150. Same with every other depressive pilot flying a plane today. Nothing will happen until it does. This is basic cause and effect. Being in the dumps doesn't mean the pilot will dump the plane, unless he does an' then you can argue about his being one bad-ass depressive, then. If this was a computer control plane then you need to be careful of Easter Eggs...the issue of human 'intelligent stupidity' doesn't go away, it is hidden by lines of code. The human factor is always real and ready to mess up your flight.

[pErvinalia]

He hadn't murdered anyone till he done the 150. Same with every other depressive pilot flying a plane today.

And same with every other first time murderer. You're still trying to link murder with depression, despite no evidence for this.

[cronus]

He hadn't murdered anyone till he done the 150. Same with every other depressive pilot flying a plane today.

And same with every other first time murderer. You're still trying to link murder with depression, despite no evidence for this.

Probably the meds, reading they've found anti-depressents at the guys home. Lots of people go psychotic-suicidal on anti-depressants (dodgy bad science meds - all about money with big pharma.)

[pErvinalia]

You're an idiot.

[cronus]

You're an idiot.

Yes, that is irrelevant here.

[pErvinalia]

Well it's not, as it is clearly interfering with your ability to think properly. You seem totally incapable of reading anything I've written in the thread. You just keep spouting the same lazy bollocks over and over.

[mistermack]

Your opinions are noted. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up, as shown by the head of the psychiatric association in the UK.

So, according to you, he was a non-maniac murderer. Great. Tell me again how that supports your point (whatever the fuck it was)? It doesn't change my point in the slightest. That is, this was first and foremost murder, not suicide, therefore blaming it on depression is lazy and frankly wrong.

Well done. You keep bashing the stuffing out of your straw-man, and you'll soon have to make another one.
This guy suffering from depression had nothing to do with it. He was just one of those evil pilots, lurking around the place, plotting to crash their planes. There are loads of them. Hardly any are depressed. They are just all homicidal maniacs.

I don't know why they hire them. Maybe it's difficult to tell a homicidal maniac.

[pErvinalia]

You apparently can't read. It's not a strawman, as the link I posted shows. And as I said, just because you are clueless of the world doesn't make something a strawman. So far I've provided evidence of multiple people. What have you done? Given your dumbass "opinion", as usual..

[mistermack]

You apparently can't read. It's not a strawman, as the link I posted shows. And as I said, just because you are clueless of the world doesn't make something a strawman. So far I've provided evidence of multiple people. What have you done? Given your dumbass "opinion", as usual..

Logic fail. Pointing out someone else who's bashing the same strawman doesn't turn it into flesh and blood.

[pErvinalia]

Pointing out that you are an idiot of spectacular proportions, however, shows that you are too stupid to even determine whether something is a strawman or not. Not least as there's a concrete example in this thread. Something I've tried to point out to you three times already. What's it like being terminally thick?

[mistermack]

Pointing out that you are an idiot of spectacular proportions, however, shows that you are too stupid to even determine whether something is a strawman or not. Not least as there's a concrete example in this thread. Something I've tried to point out to you three times already. What's it like being terminally thick?

If it's like being a homicidal maniac, it's completely undetectable.
Apparently.

[cronus]

Pointing out that you are an idiot of spectacular proportions, however, shows that you are too stupid to even determine whether something is a strawman or not. Not least as there's a concrete example in this thread. Something I've tried to point out to you three times already. What's it like being terminally thick?

If it's like being a homicidal maniac, it's completely undetectable.
Apparently.

Same with political leaders - don't know anything about people in positions of authority like that, except they want to sit in the hot chair.

[mistermack]

Same with political leaders - don't know anything about people in positions of authority like that, except they want to sit in the hot chair.

Yeh, but, now that we know that it's nothing to do with being suicidal and depressed, we can have full confidence in allowing suicidal-depressed people to be in charge of the nuclear button.

Actually, they would be the best choice, because they wouldn't be scared to push it.