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They're neither rational nor skeptics over there, you have to buy into their non-debatable belief of "equality" and "tolerance" else they ban you. It just takes a long time if you're clever though.
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Racism isn't rational, sorry to break it to you.
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Nothing to do with being clever, or you'd have been out on your ear in about 12 seconds. It's to do with weight of evidence.Tyrannical wrote:It just takes a long time if you're clever though.
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I'm skeptical of that statementrEvolutionist wrote:Racism isn't rational, sorry to break it to you.

A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
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There's lots of ill feeling here. It's stinking out the place.
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That's cos we're swamped with wankers that got kicked out of RatSkep (present company excepted.jamest wrote:There's lots of ill feeling here. It's stinking out the place.

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Re: jamest suspended from ratskep for 6 months
Wanker or not, I harbour no ill feeling for anyone. Which sounds odd, given the lynchings I've had.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:That's cos we're swamped with wankers that got kicked out of RatSkep (present company excepted.jamest wrote:There's lots of ill feeling here. It's stinking out the place.)
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:That's cos we're swamped with wankers that got kicked out of RatSkep (present company excepted.jamest wrote:There's lots of ill feeling here. It's stinking out the place.)

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It is worse than that as there isn't even 'different' races, we are all the same human race. The fact that melanocytes have various reactions to outside stimuli does not make different races.rEvolutionist wrote:Racism isn't rational, sorry to break it to you.
Edit: pressed post too soon.
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That's what we like about it. Nobody dribbles perfume over the stinky stuff. We deal with it, and by and large we get along fine. rEv and I have been at each other's throats for years now, and since the mods recognized that it's all in good fun, the sniping is a great way to blow off some steam. We have a row, and then move on.jamest wrote:There's lots of ill feeling here. It's stinking out the place.
So hold your nose and dive in. Pretty soon you won't even recognize the stench.
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I think you'll find that the "ill will" you perceive is just on the surface. It certainly is in my case.jamest wrote:Wanker or not, I harbour no ill feeling for anyone. Which sounds odd, given the lynchings I've had.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:That's cos we're swamped with wankers that got kicked out of RatSkep (present company excepted.jamest wrote:There's lots of ill feeling here. It's stinking out the place.)
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I actually don't think "racism" is the problem, "culturism" is. That some racial groups are stereotyped and lumped in with cultural groups who engage in antisocial activity is, I think, unrelated to their DNA except superficially.DaveDodo007 wrote:It is worse than that as there isn't even 'different' races, we are all the same human race. The fact that melanocytes have various reactions to outside stimuli does not make different races.rEvolutionist wrote:Racism isn't rational, sorry to break it to you.
Edit: pressed post too soon.
It's racist to think that all black men are criminals just because they are black, but it's not racist to say that a large number of black men living in particular cultural conditions are criminals. Their being black is not so much causative as it is circumstantial. It's just that we see large numbers of a particular race misbehaving in society, so we quite naturally tend to assign that cultural stigma to everyone who looks the same. The Irish went through the same thing, and so have many other cultural groups in history...like the Jews.
Racism has a very particular definition that doesn't include dislike based on skin tone. That's bigotry. Racism is the belief that one racial group is either inferior to or superior to another only as a function of genetics.
Being a white guy and fearing young black males while driving through East Topeka or Southwest Louisville is no more racist than a black man fearing young Hispanic males while driving through East LA or being an Hispanic driving through Chinatown.
The cultural identification isn't about racial superiority or inferiority, it's about identifying potential threats based on ethnic characteristics in particular locations where ethnicity is an issue, for whatever reason.
That this perfectly reasonable threat analysis is very often improperly applied outside places where the threat may be genuine and quite real isn't necessarily racist, it's just irrational.
Which is not to say that many people are not actually racist.
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Why do so many people hold a grudge against you? Are you a theist?Seth wrote:I think you'll find that the "ill will" you perceive is just on the surface. It certainly is in my case.jamest wrote:Wanker or not, I harbour no ill feeling for anyone. Which sounds odd, given the lynchings I've had.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:That's cos we're swamped with wankers that got kicked out of RatSkep (present company excepted.jamest wrote:There's lots of ill feeling here. It's stinking out the place.)
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There's a huge amount here to be agreed with.Seth wrote:I actually don't think "racism" is the problem, "culturism" is. That some racial groups are stereotyped and lumped in with cultural groups who engage in antisocial activity is, I think, unrelated to their DNA except superficially.
It's racist to think that all black men are criminals just because they are black, but it's not racist to say that a large number of black men living in particular cultural conditions are criminals. Their being black is not so much causative as it is circumstantial. It's just that we see large numbers of a particular race misbehaving in society, so we quite naturally tend to assign that cultural stigma to everyone who looks the same. The Irish went through the same thing, and so have many other cultural groups in history...like the Jews.
Racism has a very particular definition that doesn't include dislike based on skin tone. That's bigotry. Racism is the belief that one racial group is either inferior to or superior to another only as a function of genetics.
Being a white guy and fearing young black males while driving through East Topeka or Southwest Louisville is no more racist than a black man fearing young Hispanic males while driving through East LA or being an Hispanic driving through Chinatown.
The cultural identification isn't about racial superiority or inferiority, it's about identifying potential threats based on ethnic characteristics in particular locations where ethnicity is an issue, for whatever reason.
That this perfectly reasonable threat analysis is very often improperly applied outside places where the threat may be genuine and quite real isn't necessarily racist, it's just irrational.
Which is not to say that many people are not actually racist.

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Because he's a professional twat.jamest wrote:Why do so many people hold a grudge against you?

I should note that I don't hold any particular grudge against him, and I'd actually miss him if he weren't around. I do love to call him names, though. Can't bring myself to care enough about what he's saying for the most part to get beyond that with him. I do read his posts, though, even when I don't respond.
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