Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:27 am

Seth wrote:
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piscator wrote: There were 2 other options:

1. Waste a couple hundred thousand American lives invading and pacifying Japan.
2. Quit and let Japan build their own bomb.


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Would not be just life of American soldiers in Japan invading, many more Japan soldier and civilian would be kill in invasion of Japan mainland with conventional weapons. Is make atomic bomb ok? Nyet, does not. But possibly was less bad than other options. Who is know for sure without time machine?
Is important to note that American not start war with Japan, Japan start war with America. Japan killing thousands of soldiers, sailors and civilians at Pearl Harbor by sneak attack. Japan torturing and starving American POWs to death on place like Bataan. Japan not abiding by Geneva Convention at all. And then there's Nanking...

Therefore, Japan got what it had coming. Worked too...made them peaceful trading partners for long time now.
Those Jap kids and women got what they had coming to them.
So sorry, all Japanese had responsibility to prevent Japanese government and people from going to war. So, all Japanese paid the price for their nation's warmongering. The blame lies with the Emperor and the leaders of Japan, they are responsible for every Japanese civilian's death. Here's hoping they learned their lesson. Them and the Germans.
Those kids should have been out in the street protesting! Bloody kids of today (back then)! :lay:
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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by Hermit » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:50 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Might as well call all forms of armed conflict "terrorism", in that case. I have no problem if you wish to define it that way. Kind of means we need a new word for the stuff that we used to separate out as terrorism though... :tea:
We could just stick with one I quoted earlier. All forms of armed conflict that deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants does the job of defining terrorism well enough for me.
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Post by piscator » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:52 am

Now all you have to do is get everyone else to subscribe to your theories of noncombatant immunity, and we'll all be too ashamed to behead another journalist to get some airtime.


"During the American Civil War, General H. W. Halleck specified reasons for respecting the status of various noncombatants.
He listed three reasons to respect such a list at all times. (a) The limits of retributive justice forbid harming non-resistant enemies. (b) Such respect is self-evidently demanded to civilized persons. (c) The hope that the enemy will treat one's own noncombatants reciprocally"
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:58 am

You really only need to get the US to agree (not that that's an easy task either). Then the rest of the west and Israel fall into line and the UN would have some teeth to deal with shit in the third world.
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Post by piscator » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:07 am

Fund the UN with your taxes, mate. Not mine.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:10 am

We do fund it, just as you do.
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Post by piscator » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:33 am

excuse me, "Fund your UN adventurism in Africa with your taxes, mate, not mine. We're too busy to handle our own adventurism."

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Post by piscator » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:42 am

AvtomatKalashnikova wrote:
piscator wrote:"Think moose and squirrel dumb as sack of hammers." -- Boris Badenov
Not familiar with works of comrade Badenov... is not sounding like very good zoologist however, if calling animals dumb like hammer.

Boris was a man of action rather than a bespectacled observer. Boris' statement was in the context of a particular moose and squirrel, not a general condemnation of moose and squirreldom.
Also, he may have been referring to the sack, which generally have very low IQs. :dunno:
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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:45 am

piscator wrote:excuse me, "Fund your UN adventurism in Africa with your taxes, mate, not mine. We're too busy to handle our own adventurism."
The UN is supposed to be about issues of the world, not just Merka.
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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by piscator » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:51 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
piscator wrote:excuse me, "Fund your UN adventurism in Africa with your taxes, mate, not mine. We're too busy to handle our own adventurism."
The UN is supposed to be about issues of the world, not just Merka.

We gave at the office. Sorry, mate.

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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by Seth » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:09 am

rEvolutionist wrote:You really only need to get the US to agree (not that that's an easy task either). Then the rest of the west and Israel fall into line and the UN would have some teeth to deal with shit in the third world.
Yeah, American teeth. Fuck the UN. If it want's to play soldier, let the rest of the fucking "united nations" pay for it. So far what we see is that without the US, the UN is a bunch of toothless fucking cowards paralyzed by politics who couldn't and wouldn't stop a genocide if it was happening right in front of them, which it has, and which they haven't.

Again, fuck the UN. Fuck NATO too. You cheap bastards over there in Europe talk big but when it comes to putting your money where your mouths are, you lie through your teeth and let the US do the heavy lifting.

Fuck all y'all. Fight your own battles from now on and leave us out of it.
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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by Seth » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:10 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
piscator wrote:excuse me, "Fund your UN adventurism in Africa with your taxes, mate, not mine. We're too busy to handle our own adventurism."
The UN is supposed to be about issues of the world, not just Merka.
And yet it's usually about bashing the US while simultaneously begging it for relief money and military adventurism.

Fuck the UN.
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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:04 am

Fucken Marxists!! :lay:
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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by Hermit » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:09 am

piscator wrote:Now all you have to do is get everyone else to subscribe to your theories of noncombatant immunity, and we'll all be too ashamed to behead another journalist to get some airtime.
Not gonna happen, is it?
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Re: Charlie Hebdo: Gun attack on French magazine kills 12

Post by piscator » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:16 am

Tough sledding, for sure.

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