Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:59 pm

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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by piscator » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:13 am

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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by piscator » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:17 am

Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:
Hermit wrote:
piscator wrote:Well, there was Lilith.
Not according to the Bible lameassed link I found. Link



Read it yourself:

Genesis 1:
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day

Genesis II

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
...

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found a help meet for him.
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof.
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Okay, here we go: "male and female created he them." No specification of the number attached to "them," so God could have created lots of different men and women.

But there is to "Male and Female" vs "Males and Females". You're looking for a way to be contrary, instead of considering the issue.

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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:11 am

That doesn't sound like Seth. That sounds like something a troll would do...
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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by Seth » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:00 am

piscator wrote:
Seth wrote:
piscator wrote:
Hermit wrote:
piscator wrote:Well, there was Lilith.
Not according to the Bible lameassed link I found. Link



Read it yourself:

Genesis 1:
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day

Genesis II

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
...

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found a help meet for him.
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof.
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Okay, here we go: "male and female created he them." No specification of the number attached to "them," so God could have created lots of different men and women.

But there is to "Male and Female" vs "Males and Females". You're looking for a way to be contrary, instead of considering the issue.
Could be taken either way. It is not at all unusual to frame a statement like that using the singular of the object rather than the plural, particularly in ancient usage. In this context the "them" is the plural with "male and female" defining two classes of "them." I'm sure somebody with a more formal grasp of grammar could explain it much better, using all the appropriate terms.
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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by Hermit » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:49 am

Seth wrote:"male and female created he them." No specification of the number attached to "them," so God could have created lots of different men and women.

there may have been entire populations that were ordered to "be fruitful and multiply."
The plural "them" stands for one man and one woman, which taken together are two humans. So, god created them.

May have been? If that was the case, that is what the bible would have reported in the story of creation. After all, that would not have been a bagatelle that inadvertently escaped god's attention when he dictated it to his prophets.
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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by klr » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:49 pm

Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:"male and female created he them." No specification of the number attached to "them," so God could have created lots of different men and women.

there may have been entire populations that were ordered to "be fruitful and multiply."
The plural "them" stands for one man and one woman, which taken together are two humans. So, god created them.

May have been? If that was the case, that is what the bible would have reported in the story of creation. After all, that would not have been a bagatelle that inadvertently escaped god's attention when he dictated it to his prophets.
Never mind the fact that this wording (King James?) and everything else is the result of numerous translations, interpretations, re-interpretations, committee meetings, you name it.
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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by Seth » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:18 pm

Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:"male and female created he them." No specification of the number attached to "them," so God could have created lots of different men and women.

there may have been entire populations that were ordered to "be fruitful and multiply."
The plural "them" stands for one man and one woman, which taken together are two humans. So, god created them.
That's ambiguous.
May have been? If that was the case, that is what the bible would have reported in the story of creation. After all, that would not have been a bagatelle that inadvertently escaped god's attention when he dictated it to his prophets.
Maybe the prophets transcribed improperly. Maybe it was obvious to them that God didn't create just one man and one woman, so they wrote the passage ambiguously. Maybe God didn't tell them anything.

I don't know.

What I do know is that you cannot even attempt to attribute the "bloopers" of the Bible to God unless you first admit that God exists, and second you admit that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God dictated directly to the prophets, which makes you a believer in God, not an Atheist.
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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by Hermit » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:33 pm

Seth wrote:What I do know is that you cannot even attempt to attribute the "bloopers" of the Bible to God unless you first admit that God exists, and second you admit that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God dictated directly to the prophets, which makes you a believer in God, not an Atheist.
Kindly reread this thread's opening post. Also the fourth.
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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by Seth » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:39 pm

Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:What I do know is that you cannot even attempt to attribute the "bloopers" of the Bible to God unless you first admit that God exists, and second you admit that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God dictated directly to the prophets, which makes you a believer in God, not an Atheist.
Kindly reread this thread's opening post. Also the fourth.
Why? It's a fallacy constructed to provide a platform for disparaging and demeaning people of faith, so I'm free to attack the logic and reason of any post made in response, and will continue to do so.
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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

Post by Hermit » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:45 pm

Oh no! Not ye olde fallacy fallacy again. :roll:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:57 am

"Fallacy Squared" fallacy.. :coffee:
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Re: Some of the biblical God's greatest bloopers

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rEvolutionist wrote:"Fallacy Squared" fallacy.. :coffee:

The Texas Carpenter Fallacy! :ab:

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