Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

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Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Strong theist. I know there is a God.
2
6%
De facto theist. I'm not 100% certain but fairly sure there is a God, so I live on the assumption that there is one.
0
No votes
Leaning towards theism. I think the chance of God's existence is a bit better than 50%.
0
No votes
Sitting on the fence. I think the chance of God's existence is 50/50
0
No votes
Leaning towards atheism. I think the chance of God's existence is a bit less than 50%.
0
No votes
De facto atheist. I'm not 100% certain but fairly sure there is no God, so I live on the assumption that there isn't one.
16
48%
Strong atheist. I know there is no God.
6
18%
New-ager. I believe that some other forms of supernatural entities exist.
1
3%
What? No bacon or cheese? Fuck this poll.
8
24%
 
Total votes: 33

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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Seth » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:51 pm

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Seth wrote:Got a bug up my ass evidently. Life is not wonderful right now, it's eat, drive, sleep, repeat ad nauseum and the money ain't going to keep me out of a cardboard box eventually, it just slows the bleeding. I barely see the sun now and in a month I won't see it at all since I'm driving nights and don't get up until after 3 pm and work till 4 am. I love the driving and meeting new people, but business is slow except on the weekends and it doesn't look like I can make enough profit to stay in my house much past April of next year.
Oh fuck. Although I totally hate most of your opinions, I do feel genuinely sorry for you. Unfortunately all I can do in order to help is to suggest you do an Ayn Rand. She finished up helping herself to social welfare benefits. You too can rationalise such an action. In fact you are most of the way there already, having mentioned how much tax you've paid. Lovely to see adaptation at work. Better than dying, I suppose.

By the way, you're supposed to hate my opinions, it's what drives debate. If you agreed with everything I said, we'd both be bored to tears in short order.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Hermit » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:01 pm

Seth wrote:If you agreed with everything I said, we'd both be bored to tears in short order.
Speak for yourself. I have never been bored with opinions I love.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Seth » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:21 pm

Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:If you agreed with everything I said, we'd both be bored to tears in short order.
Speak for yourself. I have never been bored with opinions I love.
Perhaps, but the question is whether others are bored with your sycophantic cheerleading or would prefer to actually critically explore a subject.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by laklak » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:35 pm

If they offer you any dosh take it and run, Seth. I can't wait for 62 so I can start sucking the early Social Security tit. Hell, I've paid into it my whole life, time to get some back. Bring on 65 and Medicare!
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Hermit » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:42 pm

Seth wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Seth wrote:If you agreed with everything I said, we'd both be bored to tears in short order.
Speak for yourself. I have never been bored with opinions I love.
Perhaps, but the question is whether others are bored with your sycophantic cheerleading or would prefer to actually critically explore a subject.
Well, ask it then. :mrgreen:
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by mistermack » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:11 am

When you ask about God's existence, you need to define God. Did anyone do that?

I'm thoroughly atheist about the Gods that have been proposed by the major religions.
I give it a one-in-trillion chance of being true.

As to some other form of alien intelligence, that had the technology to create a universe out of nothing, maybe that could have happened. We don't understand infinity, we can't possibly solve the problem of why something exists, rather than nothing.
But if time is infinite, then the possibilities are infinite. We only know of 13.7 billion years, but that could be small change, in the history of the multiverses.

There could be ''Gods'' out there, but the evidence is overwhelming that they don't give a fuck about us, and we have not got ''souls'', and when we die, that's it.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by rainbow » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:24 pm

mistermack wrote:When you ask about God's existence, you need to define God. Did anyone do that?
Impossible. You cannot define the infinite.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Hermit » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:31 pm

There are as many definitions of God as there are believers in the existence of one. What they have in common - at least in regard to the monotheistic variety - is that God always existed and created the universe. I don't think for the purposes of this poll a definition is unnecessary, though.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by mistermack » Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:52 pm

rainbow wrote:
mistermack wrote:When you ask about God's existence, you need to define God. Did anyone do that?
Impossible. You cannot define the infinite.
In this context, define means ''say what you mean by''.
People can always have a crack at that.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Seth » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:32 pm

mistermack wrote:When you ask about God's existence, you need to define God. Did anyone do that?

I'm thoroughly atheist about the Gods that have been proposed by the major religions.
I give it a one-in-trillion chance of being true.

As to some other form of alien intelligence, that had the technology to create a universe out of nothing, maybe that could have happened. We don't understand infinity, we can't possibly solve the problem of why something exists, rather than nothing.
But if time is infinite, then the possibilities are infinite. We only know of 13.7 billion years, but that could be small change, in the history of the multiverses.
In other words, you don't know....
There could be ''Gods'' out there, but the evidence is overwhelming that they don't give a fuck about us, and we have not got ''souls'', and when we die, that's it.
How do you know this?
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by mistermack » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:16 pm

Seth wrote: In other words, you don't know....
I don't ''know'' anything. I form an opinion, based on the available evidence.
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Seth wrote: How do you know this?
I don't ''know'' anything. I form an opinion, based on the available evidence.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Seth » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:17 pm

mistermack wrote:
Seth wrote: In other words, you don't know....
I don't ''know'' anything. I form an opinion, based on the available evidence.
Then just say you don't know.
.
Seth wrote: How do you know this?
I don't ''know'' anything. I form an opinion, based on the available evidence.[/quote]

Then don't state your opinion as a fact, state it as your opinion.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Seth » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:18 pm

rainbow wrote:
mistermack wrote:When you ask about God's existence, you need to define God. Did anyone do that?
Impossible. You cannot define the infinite.
Wrong. You can define it, you just can't measure it.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by rainbow » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:00 am

Seth wrote:
rainbow wrote:
mistermack wrote:When you ask about God's existence, you need to define God. Did anyone do that?
Impossible. You cannot define the infinite.
Wrong. You can define it, you just can't measure it.
No you are even more wrong than a very wrong person.

You can only define that which is finite. That is by the boundaries that define what it is and what it isn't.

If it has no bounds, it is infinite, but cannot be defined.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by rainbow » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:04 am

mistermack wrote:
rainbow wrote:
mistermack wrote:When you ask about God's existence, you need to define God. Did anyone do that?
Impossible. You cannot define the infinite.
In this context, define means ''say what you mean by''.
People can always have a crack at that.
They can. It is however futile and they would be wrong.

Therefore any attempt to use such a definition would result in an incorrect conclusion.
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