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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:02 am

An eye for art! Argentinian painter snorts paint and then squirts it onto canvas though his EYE to create Jackson Pollock-style masterpieces
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Post by FBM » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:29 am

So all I need to create a masterpiece is a box of laxatives...
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Post by JimC » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:46 am

Painting with semen will be the next conceptual breakthrough...
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:51 am

painting that way over Playboy pages is old saw.
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Post by orpheus » Fri May 02, 2014 11:55 pm

JimC wrote:Painting with semen will be the next conceptual breakthrough...
Anselm Kiefer has used semen in at least one of his works. It's unfortunate that he has gained a lot of notoriety for this; the semen is only one of many elements he uses, and his work certainly doesn't revolve around it as a conceptual breakthrough. Yet to many people it's the one thing he's known for. I think it's probably simpler for lazy art critics to point to and talk about, rather than to actually think about his work and deal with its complexities.

Actually, Kiefer is a jaw-droppingly magnificent artist - one of the most powerful of the 20th and 21st centuries. He is even able to take on the subject matter of the Holocaust - a treacherous area for artists because it's so hard to avoid pathetic sentimentality. But Kiefer's work is serious, monumental and without a hint of irony. No small feat for any artist.

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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Sat May 03, 2014 12:23 am

JimC wrote:Painting with semen will be the next conceptual breakthrough...
It's not a new concept by any means. :smoke:

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Post by orpheus » Sat May 03, 2014 12:44 am

Interesting! I didn't know of that Duchamp. Kiefer was born in '45. Curious.
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Post by Hermit » Sat May 03, 2014 1:10 am

List of art that involved the use of bodily fluids. I'm using "art" in the widest possible sense, that is, as in "artifact".
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Post by JimC » Sat May 03, 2014 1:32 am

Now it's "art" that wants to drain my vital bodily fluids! :lay:
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat May 03, 2014 2:52 am

Warhol did a piece where him and several other factory members pissed onto a sheet of hot iron - he then encased it in resin to preserve the "unique" colours and patterns as the urine began to corrode it. :tea:
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Post by Svartalf » Sat May 03, 2014 10:20 am

Warhol was to art what Bernard Henry Levy is to philosophy... :nono:
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Post by lofuji » Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:53 am

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An eye for art! Argentinian painter snorts paint and then squirts it onto canvas though his EYE to create Jackson Pollock-style masterpieces
Vomit Painter artist throws up on canvas to create Jackson Pollock-style splatter paintings that Lady Gaga loves
Both of these quotes reveal total ignorance of Pollock's work. I recently discovered that a good way to replicate a Pollock painting is to dribble paint from what physicists call a chaotic pendulum. Critics often rubbish Pollock because all his later paintings were produced while he was blind drunk, but in getting himself blattered, he was merely transforming himself into a human chaotic pendulum, and I find a painting like Lavender Mist

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to be one of the best ways to explain chaos theory, which in my experience few people actually understand. Unlike the work of the two artists referenced above, which I can only imagine is no more than a mess, Pollock's paintings are illustrations of chaos, which is not the same thing.
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Post by piscator » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:56 am

Svartalf wrote:Warhol was to art what Bernard Henry Levy is to philosophy... :nono:
Pithy! :{D



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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jun 04, 2026 6:31 pm

Yeah this thread is mostly about humans expelling substances from various parts of their bodies to create works of art, but its title is apt for this item, I think. As well, the Trumpist wannabe cultural overlords mostly produce crap art so ...

The author of the piece builds significance here, but it may be as simple as a failure to produce things of genuine quality and create works that actually resonate beyond their political fellow travellers.

'MAGA fails to conquer arts and music'
When Trump was elected to a second term in 2024, his coalition genuinely thought his return to office meant it was their turn to be the nation’s cool kids. That expectation is turning out to be false. Despite MAGA’s successful capture of the nation’s political system, they can’t get American culture to bend to their will. And like their leader, they are not handling it well.

On his Daily Wire show, Matt Walsh gave himself over to an extended whinging session about the Freedom 250 cancellations, while admitting that Trump’s efforts to organize a celebration “has fallen apart in spectacular fashion.” His elderly viewers took to the comment section to declare that American culture had peaked conveniently when they were young, and to sneer that these new-fangled artists who had been scheduled to perform at the event — most of whom haven’t charted since the ’80s or early ’90s — just show “our country has deteriorated so much in 50 years.”

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“The Left is losing the culture,” Danielle Gill, the wife of Texas GOP Rep. Brandon Gill, insisted. Her evidence? Rapper Flo Rida, whose last album came out 14 years ago, was still hanging in [for the 'Freedom 250' show]. She neglected to mention that literally everyone else except rapper Vanilla Ice had already quit. (By June 1, even Milli Vanilli’s Fab Morvan, who endured an infamous lip-syncing scandal in 1989, announced the group was pulling out.)

This grasping is especially delicious considering how, in early 2025, there was a brief panic in mainstream entertainment over the possibility that the right really was culturally ascendent. Trump won after being endorsed by Joe Rogan, whose tedious “comedy” podcast gets millions of weekly listeners. That audience is impressive — until one remembers that, in a country of nearly 350 million people, finding a few million incurious listeners who watch bad sitcoms and alien abduction “documentaries” because they are scared of more interesting entertainment has never been a huge lift.

The right has loudmouthed for decades about how they are going to take over the culture. They love to quote Andrew Breitbart, the deceased founder of Breitbart News Network, by saying “politics is downstream from culture,” and offering another pseudo-witticism — “Go woke, go broke” — that was ascendent a mere year ago. Corporations like Disney and Paramount caved to what they thought was a rising new tide of cultural fascism to replace what has been decades, if not centuries, of an unbroken line of cultural innovation mostly coming from people of color, queer people and effete urban creatives living presumably decadent lives.

With all this in mind, it’s been a real pleasure in our otherwise bleak political environment to witness the “fascists win the culture war” thesis fall apart completely over the past year. Trump failed to get Jimmy Kimmel fired, and managed to turn the late-night host into a free-speech hero instead. The Daily Wire, which was founded on the premise that Americans hated “woke” entertainment and craved right-wing alternatives, is now in financial free fall. Efforts to turn Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk into a pop culture icon after his killing last September have backfired spectacularly, with online parodists meme-ifying his image.

Perhaps the biggest humiliation — at least until the recent twin debacles of the Freedom 250 implosion and the Kennedy Center ruling — was the Super Bowl halftime show. After rapper Bad Bunny was announced as the headliner, TPUSA declared they would air an “alternative” that would allegedly blow the real deal out of the water. Instead, it was a sad affair, thrown together at the last minute and unable to book anyone more interesting than Kid Rock as a headliner.

Despite insisting politics are downstream from culture, MAGA ended up flipping the equation. They clearly hoped culture could be downstream from politics. The bet was that Trump’s win would mean a takeover of pop culture, and a mass conversion to the MAGA gospel. But the coalition’s efforts at cultural conquest were always doomed for one reason: The right understands that the arts and music are powerful, but by and large, they don’t understand why. It’s telling that the only event from the Freedom 250 celebration that appears it might be successful is the UFC fight scheduled for June 14 on the White House lawn. Men beating each other to a pulp is something Trump and his followers understand.

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