IQ of African Americans
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IQ of African Americans
Reference : Skeptic magazine, Vol. 19 no. 1, 2014 page 36 - (American edition, paper format).
Racists have made much of the fact that Americans of African descent have lower measured IQ compared to white Americans or those of Asian descent. However, there are a number of studies that show clearly that the discrepancy is environmental, not genetic.
For example : Elsie Moore in the early 1980's took black children up for adoption, and arranged for 24 to go to middle class white adoptive parents, and 24 to go to middle class black adoptive parents. At age 8.5 years, the ones adopted by whites had IQ levels 13 points ahead of those adopted by black parents, indicating that the environment lifted their IQ levels to those of normal white middle class kids of the same age.
In addition, there is evidence showing that black IQ levels are rising, and they are catching up to the whites. The Flynn Effect shows that IQ levels are rising, from generation to generation. The average white IQ 50 years ago was the same as that of blacks today. The difference is culture and learning.
But blacks in America have gained 5.5 IQ points on whites over the past generation. They are growing their IQ faster than whites are, and that is due to them getting greater access to the tools for intellectual development.
There was a similar distinction in the USA over 100 years with the Irish. The first Irish immigrants tended to be obstreperous, aggressive, uneducated, and just plain thick. Today, they are just as educated and smart as other Americans. Blacks are undergoing the same development, and will becomes as smart and educated as whites, and probably in a much smaller time span.
Racists have made much of the fact that Americans of African descent have lower measured IQ compared to white Americans or those of Asian descent. However, there are a number of studies that show clearly that the discrepancy is environmental, not genetic.
For example : Elsie Moore in the early 1980's took black children up for adoption, and arranged for 24 to go to middle class white adoptive parents, and 24 to go to middle class black adoptive parents. At age 8.5 years, the ones adopted by whites had IQ levels 13 points ahead of those adopted by black parents, indicating that the environment lifted their IQ levels to those of normal white middle class kids of the same age.
In addition, there is evidence showing that black IQ levels are rising, and they are catching up to the whites. The Flynn Effect shows that IQ levels are rising, from generation to generation. The average white IQ 50 years ago was the same as that of blacks today. The difference is culture and learning.
But blacks in America have gained 5.5 IQ points on whites over the past generation. They are growing their IQ faster than whites are, and that is due to them getting greater access to the tools for intellectual development.
There was a similar distinction in the USA over 100 years with the Irish. The first Irish immigrants tended to be obstreperous, aggressive, uneducated, and just plain thick. Today, they are just as educated and smart as other Americans. Blacks are undergoing the same development, and will becomes as smart and educated as whites, and probably in a much smaller time span.
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I haven't seen him in a while, though.rEvolutionist wrote:Tyrannical is not going to like this... :O
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B.F. Skinhead, not so much...FBM wrote:B.F. Skinner approves of this thread.
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They are still only human. Limited by their human hard-wiring they'll construct a space faring civilization. It's only having access to the pent up solar energy of millions of years that allowed this temporary human high point blip. Soon the darkness, and the racialists will be the least of our concerns when the monsters of the id emerge from the human jungle. Preach environment but that too is a construct of the human golden age, so when things turn bleak don't expect any improvement from the fine words of TED hacktivists.
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Soon ? Soon ? That's stretching the word "soon" a bit.Scumple wrote:They are still only human. Limited by their human hard-wiring they'll construct a space faring civilization. It's only having access to the pent up solar energy of millions of years that allowed this temporary human high point blip. Soon the darkness, and the racialists will be the least of our concerns when the monsters of the id emerge from the human jungle. Preach environment but that too is a construct of the human golden age, so when things turn bleak don't expect any improvement from the fine words of TED hacktivists.
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It's all, like, relative, you know? When Andromeda's collision with our own galaxy is scheduled to begin a couple of billion years from now, and our local star is not due to go supernova for another billion years after that, even a million years will be soon in comparison. So, "soon the darkness, and the racialists will be the least of our concerns when the monsters of the id emerge from the human jungle" is fair comment. Of course, if Scumple meant to imply "in 100,000 years", "soon" would be entirely inappropriate on its own. In that case he should have said "very soon", "on our doorstep" or something like that.mistermack wrote:Soon ? Soon ? That's stretching the word "soon" a bit.
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I'm still waiting for the Himalayan glaciers to melt. That's the First Seal.
Hang on, how the hell do the seals get to those glaciers?
Hang on, how the hell do the seals get to those glaciers?
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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15 years is how long you've got.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... scientists
What do you reckon that'll do for race relations? With no petrol the obvious form of cheap power may be slave tabor. Slavery never vanished, and only became uncool because the internal combustion engine out-competed it. The memes of slavery are still around, kept safe in the minds of the tyrannical ones and waiting for their day of resurrection. A return to mainstream, a return to centre stage. And these are large scale societal forces and nothing the PC mob can say or attempt to have not said will make a iota of difference. You'll be crushed by the anger of the impoverished mob if you try to stand against the turning tide on that day. Hear what I say and weep for the new barbarism is coming and soon, fifteen years is all you've got and that's only with good weather.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... scientists
What do you reckon that'll do for race relations? With no petrol the obvious form of cheap power may be slave tabor. Slavery never vanished, and only became uncool because the internal combustion engine out-competed it. The memes of slavery are still around, kept safe in the minds of the tyrannical ones and waiting for their day of resurrection. A return to mainstream, a return to centre stage. And these are large scale societal forces and nothing the PC mob can say or attempt to have not said will make a iota of difference. You'll be crushed by the anger of the impoverished mob if you try to stand against the turning tide on that day. Hear what I say and weep for the new barbarism is coming and soon, fifteen years is all you've got and that's only with good weather.
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If you want to discuss idiotic doomsday theories, why not start another thread?
If you want to discuss idiotic doomsday theories, why not start another thread?
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I'll consider that. It is often easy to forget the multitasking limits of others. I wouldn't fit on Ratskep.Blind groper wrote:Scumple
If you want to discuss idiotic doomsday theories, why not start another thread?

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The "if" was unnecessary.Blind groper wrote:Scumple
If you want to discuss idiotic doomsday theories, why not start another thread?
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What we can do in the US is find everyone who displays a confederate flag and enslave them.Scumple wrote:15 years is how long you've got.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... scientists
What do you reckon that'll do for race relations? With no petrol the obvious form of cheap power may be slave tabor. Slavery never vanished, and only became uncool because the internal combustion engine out-competed it. The memes of slavery are still around, kept safe in the minds of the tyrannical ones and waiting for their day of resurrection. A return to mainstream, a return to centre stage. And these are large scale societal forces and nothing the PC mob can say or attempt to have not said will make a iota of difference. You'll be crushed by the anger of the impoverished mob if you try to stand against the turning tide on that day. Hear what I say and weep for the new barbarism is coming and soon, fifteen years is all you've got and that's only with good weather.
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