Socialised Medicine Yaaaaaaaayyyy

[FBM]

Snowleopard, this is a reminder from staff that this post contains a person attack on another member, which is a violation of TEH RULEZ.. Please feel free to attack ideas, but not members, thanks.

What about my personal attacks, that's got to be worth a warning!

Or do you mean personal attacks made on you?

[MrJonno]

I make plenty of personal attacks on our forum resident psychopath Seth, while his ideology is genocidal he personally is a threat to just about any civilized human being within 2 miles of him.

I just think potential mass murderers like Seth should get the same forum protection as everyone else including from me

[FBM]

Well, next time you make a personal attack on Seth or anyone else, please report yourself so that staff can focus on it.

[pErvinalia]

Love it!

[MrJonno]

I make plenty of personal attacks on our forum resident psychopath Seth, while his ideology is genocidal he personally is a threat to just about any civilized human being within 2 miles of him.

I just think potential mass murderers like Seth should get the same forum protection as everyone else including from me

I have now reported this clear personal attack

[pErvinalia]

Get him mods!!

[FBM]

Wadda you, some kinda psychopathic, potential mass murderer? I call my best friends worse than that.

[SnowLeopard]

Be a good little libertarian and shut up about things you don't understand... like humanity.

Thieves are not being humane. As I said, the difference between Libertarians and socialists is that socialists believe in using force to extract from individuals that which socialists believe others deserve more than those who labored to earn the property, whereas Libertarians respect the right of the individual to the fruits of his labor and ask nicely for those who do well to help and support those who are in need, and if the potential donor declines to assist by giving his property, Libertarians, unlike socialists, don't go after him with machine guns, kill him and take what they want, they move on to another, more charitable and altruistic potential donor and try to persuade that person to contribute.

In the comparison of moral conduct and immoral conduct, Libertarians are acting morally while socialists are acting immorally, which is why not one of you can support the socialist paradigm with a rational and logical argument. You all have to, as we see here, evade and avoid and engage in ad hominem rhetoric to avoid the inevitable destruction of your ideology that any sort of rational inspection would cause.

Well that's just Iridescent hyperbolic conduit.

Sorry, I thought it was standard practice to gloss over things people write with a short irrelevant collection of jibberish in an attempt to dismiss what they say as piss.

And then they die in the process. Because no person that is not a psychopath thinks a country can be run on random acts of kindness.

But as taxation isn't theft ... as you can't even understand that, that makes anything else you have to say on the matter moot and nonsense...

And where exactly are these Western socialists that go hunting people with machine guns and kill them to collect taxes? Oh yeah, no where. Yet another figment of Seths over active and underdeveloped imagination. Basically nonsense invented to try and prop up a nonsense argument.

I have given my rational logical argument. I have explained why in my opinion you and all other slimey scum sucking libertarians are immoral and unethical. And yet you choose to ignore this, skwak out the same debunked statement and act like the brain dead chess playing pigeon.

"blaaahhh no one can defeat me no one has a rational argument look at all the evasion!!!!"

'No wait you see I gave a rational and logical argument as you requested. You just don't want to acknowledge it. You're basically a petulant child, as all libertarians are, unable to accept that people are able to have different values from your own shitty ones. Because if you understood that and took time to read other peoples opinions you would run the risk of realizing that libertarians are actually just moral vacuums and psychopaths devoid of ethics.'

"BLEEEET I WIN"

Your attempt at an argument could be replaced with a track on iTunes set to repeat. That's pretty sad.

[SnowLeopard]

which is why not one of you can support the socialist paradigm with a rational and logical argument.

And yet you are entirely unable to articulate your reasoning that leads you to this conclusion.

Nope. I believe in care, humanity, compassion. And value the weak and poor of our society more than I value the feelings of out of touch, out of date, self important, greedy self centered misers with delusions of grandeur that want to keep their tight fisted claws on their "own" money. I value it more than I value the views of the lowest scum, the dregs of humanity that would rather their hand stay gripped tightly to their wallet than open it to save someone from dying, or give care and comfort to the elderly and infirm. Especially when they earned that money full in the knowledge of exactly what percentage will be taken by the state so it can be put to better use to help the needy and less fortunate of our society before they earned a penny. It's the same reasoning that nearly everyone in every country in the world adheres to. Simple, straight forward, straight to the point. You lose. It's not really a very elusive opinion.

See the words Seth? Words... OOOOoooo... magical.

[SnowLeopard]

I don't know. Maybe I'm coming round. In this magical land with no government. What's to stop me buying a tank and driving it through the front door of Seths house...

Then just walking away giving a Nelson style Haa haa...

[MrJonno]

Seth would have 'friends' and have two tanks to stop you (who of course will be contracted to help each other)

You would then bring more friends with 3 tanks with a similar contract

Eventually you end up with 50 million 'friends' with a shared contract and 1000's of tanks. The 50 million 'friends' technically then get known as a 'country'.

It's a bit silly but that is how countries form, people sacrificing 'freedom' for the common good

[SnowLeopard]

Fallacious appeal to common practice as a rhetorical evasion.

What's stolen remains the property of the original owner is a universal legal principle. Just because you can convince government thugs to do your robbery for you doesn't change the nature of the crime or the title to the property.

The fact that taxation is not theft is a universal legal principle, so, the fuck do you care about the reality of universal legal principles.

Why did you evade this Seth. Whyyyyy, Seth? Whyyyyy?

[SnowLeopard]

Seth would have 'friends'

Easy there. Some theories are hard to accept but you're going in to the realms of fantasy now.

[Svartalf]

I don't know. Maybe I'm coming round. In this magical land with no government. What's to stop me buying a tank and driving it through the front door of Seths house...

Then just walking away giving a Nelson style Haa haa...

Seth's own private army with its own tank and artillery pieces

[pErvinalia]