Socialised Medicine Yaaaaaaaayyyy

[laklak]

All taxation is not theft; however, all taxation of ME is.

[Svartalf]

Be like me : I'm poor and get bypassed by any number of taxes, starting with income tax.

[JimC]

Be like me : I'm poor and get bypassed by any number of taxes, starting with income tax.

You are Seth's thief, then!

[SnowLeopard]

I get my eye tests paid for through the government. I go to a psychiatric hospital weekly for 2 hours paid for through the government. I swallow anti-depressant pills daily and my prescription for those is.. paid for through the government

And I don't earn enough money to pay income tax!

muuuuhahahahhahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!

[MrJonno]

I get my eye tests paid for through the government. I go to a psychiatric hospital weekly for 2 hours paid for through the government. I swallow anti-depressant pills daily and my prescription for those is.. paid for through the government

And I don't earn enough money to pay income tax!

muuuuhahahahhahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Next thing they will tell me I have to pay taxes for other people kids to go to school and paying for guns and tanks for soldiers

[Svartalf]

Be like me : I'm poor and get bypassed by any number of taxes, starting with income tax.

You are Seth's thief, then!

Yet not a cent of his landed in my pocket or providing me with anything.

[mistermack]

The pragmatic point here is that Seth's absolutist views on tax morality have zero chance of affecting anything in the real world.

Seth's views on morality are remarkably similar to what you would expect from a paranoid self-obsessed psychopath.
For most people, morality is how you treat others. For Seth, it's all how they treat me, me, me.

Everybody is out to get at me, to take what's mine, they want to shit on me etc. etc.
The well-being of other people means fuck-all to him and never will. Some people are born that way .

[MrJonno]

The pragmatic point here is that Seth's absolutist views on tax morality have zero chance of affecting anything in the real world.

Seth's views on morality are remarkably similar to what you would expect from a paranoid self-obsessed psychopath.
For most people, morality is how you treat others. For Seth, it's all how they treat me, me, me.

Everybody is out to get at me, to take what's mine, they want to shit on me etc. etc.
The well-being of other people means fuck-all to him and never will. Some people are born that way .

From his self confessed background of beatings while having to salute/call daddy sir I doubt he was born that way. If he didnt have access to firearms it would simple be a sad case of child abuse which you could pity but instead I will save it for the non-armed victims

[Seth]

Be a good little libertarian and shut up about things you don't understand... like humanity.

Thieves are not being humane. As I said, the difference between Libertarians and socialists is that socialists believe in using force to extract from individuals that which socialists believe others deserve more than those who labored to earn the property, whereas Libertarians respect the right of the individual to the fruits of his labor and ask nicely for those who do well to help and support those who are in need, and if the potential donor declines to assist by giving his property, Libertarians, unlike socialists, don't go after him with machine guns, kill him and take what they want, they move on to another, more charitable and altruistic potential donor and try to persuade that person to contribute.

In the comparison of moral conduct and immoral conduct, Libertarians are acting morally while socialists are acting immorally, which is why not one of you can support the socialist paradigm with a rational and logical argument. You all have to, as we see here, evade and avoid and engage in ad hominem rhetoric to avoid the inevitable destruction of your ideology that any sort of rational inspection would cause.

[MrJonno]

Natural law says you don't own anything until you pay taxes (my version of natural law of course)

[JimC]

In the comparison of moral conduct and immoral conduct, Libertarians are acting morally while socialists are acting immorally, which is why not one of you can support the socialist paradigm with a rational and logical argument.

Problem is, they're not "acting" at all, since all Libertarians do is bombard the world with empty, impotent rhetoric that has zero effect on the political reality in any country in the world.

Rather like the dwindling ranks of true-believer Marxists, actually...

Meanwhile, the various shades of conservatives, liberals, social democrats and the like roll up their sleeves, and get on with the messy real-world business of persuading voters about their programs, and then actually governing...

[MrJonno]

What these psychopaths are hoping for is the end of civilization so they can live in their utopia. There is a very fine line between hoping for the end and working towards it, thin enough for the security forces to watch they very closely

[FBM]

What these psychopaths are hoping for is the end of civilization so they can live in their utopia. There is a very fine line between hoping for the end and working towards it, thin enough for the security forces to watch they very closely

Interesting, Big Brother.

[FBM]

Snowleopard, this is a reminder from staff that this post contains a person attack on another member, which is a violation of TEH RULEZ.. Please feel free to attack ideas, but not members, thanks.

[MrJonno]

Snowleopard, this is a reminder from staff that this post contains a person attack on another member, which is a violation of TEH RULEZ.. Please feel free to attack ideas, but not members, thanks.

What about my personal attacks, that's got to be worth a warning!