What did this man need but didn't have?

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What did this man need but didn't have?

Post by Seth » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:25 am

This is what we like to call a "hero." A very luck hero. Sure would have been nice if he'd been able to render a few of those thugs incapable of continuing their deadly behavior as he breached the door.
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Good Samaritan Shot While Helping Save a Family ‘on Their Knees Execution-Style’ From Four Attackers
Feb. 3, 2014 12:55pm Liz Klimas

A 28-year-old from Texas was shot Sunday morning while helping a desperate family under attack by four masked men, but he says he’s more disturbed by what he saw happening to the family than by what happened to him.

“I glanced inside and these guys had, they had his wife and they had I’m guessing his daughters and they had them on their knees execution-style,” the unnamed man told KHOU-TV, appearing to choke up at the thought. ”And two of the guys had guns at their heads.”
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The man who helped save a Texas family is not being identified because the suspects have not been caught. (Image source: KHOU-TV)

Jose Espinosa’s Houston home was stormed by the men, who ended up stealing several items around 4:30 a.m. while his family slept.

William Espinoza, 17, told KRIV-TV he woke up to gunshots and thought he was dreaming at first.

“As I woke up, I saw two men in my room. They told me to face down on the pillow and not say anything and if I look, they will shoot me,” the teen recalled, telling the news station he didn’t know if his parents were dead or alive at the time.
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William (left) and Jose (right) Espinosa describe the armed invasion. (Image source: KHOU-TV)

William said he could hear his mother crying and talking between his father and the men. Then he heard glass; his father had jumped out the window.

“I heard screaming and I thought someone died. I was just scared. At that moment I was just praying,” William told KRIV.

But Jose Espinoza wasn’t shot. Outside the home, he ran to the street to flag down a driver for help.

“He’s screaming, ‘Help me! Help me! They’re inside my house. They’ve got my family,’” the man who stopped told KHOU.

The man went into the residence and fought with the intruders. That’s when William heard a gunshot.

“I heard a gunshot, that’s the moment I started to think, is it my dad? Is it my mom? So I started to pray. I heard three gunshots,” he said.

The masked men fled, taking cellphones and computers.

The good Samaritan, who was shot in the leg and is expected to survive, told KHOU he thinks his actions are something “anybody else would do it, not just me.”

The Espinoza family is thankful for this man.

“He said he’s very grateful to him and he’s sorry he had to go through that shock,” William translated for his father, who spoke in Spanish, to KHOU.

Watch KHOU-TV’s report:

The suspects are still at large, according to reports.
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Re: What did this man need but didn't have?

Post by Tero » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:57 am

It's Texas! Anything goes.

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Re: What did this man need but didn't have?

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:02 am

I'm sure we've had this thread before...

The answer, of course, is that he needed to live in a country not nearly so infested with guns...
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:34 am

quote your sources you cock bag. You're a fucking disgrace for a propertarian.
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:06 pm

Something odd about this story. Four armed, masked men breaking in to an obviously occupied house to steal relatively low value computer equipment. Perhaps that's just how crime goes down in Texas, I don't know. But it sounds more likely to me it was more of a "professional" job and what they were after was specific data on the computers. Not that I'm suggesting in any way that the people living there were involved in something dodgy or deserved it. It just seems odd. I wonder if it was bitcoin related.
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Post by FBM » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:39 pm

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Re: What did this man need but didn't have?

Post by mistermack » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:57 pm

Is the answer a mobile phone?

That's what I'd like in that situation. A gun would be completely useless, and would just slow me down, as I ran away.
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Post by Seth » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:07 pm

mistermack wrote:Is the answer a mobile phone?

That's what I'd like in that situation. A gun would be completely useless, and would just slow me down, as I ran away.
We aren't discussing cowardice here.
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Post by FBM » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:12 pm

Seth, what do you think about merging this thread with the other one of the same title and general topic?
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Re: What did this man need but didn't have?

Post by mistermack » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:21 pm

Seth wrote:
mistermack wrote:Is the answer a mobile phone?

That's what I'd like in that situation. A gun would be completely useless, and would just slow me down, as I ran away.
We aren't discussing cowardice here.
Who the fuck is we? When did you start giving the orders?
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Post by Seth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:09 am

mistermack wrote:
Seth wrote:
mistermack wrote:Is the answer a mobile phone?

That's what I'd like in that situation. A gun would be completely useless, and would just slow me down, as I ran away.
We aren't discussing cowardice here.
Who the fuck is we? When did you start giving the orders?
Long ago. Now suck in that gut, soldier...and shut your pie-hole!
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Post by Seth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:09 am

FBM wrote:Seth, what do you think about merging this thread with the other one of the same title and general topic?
I think it's a way to marginalize the topic.
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Re: What did this man need but didn't have?

Post by mistermack » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:16 am

Seth wrote:
mistermack wrote: Who the fuck is we? When did you start giving the orders?
Long ago. Now suck in that gut, soldier...and shut your pie-hole!
No, you go back to polishing your gun.

On your pubes. We all know you do it, you might as well post it on youtube.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:18 am

Seth wrote:
FBM wrote:Seth, what do you think about merging this thread with the other one of the same title and general topic?
I think it's a way to marginalize the topic.
Which is a bad idea how exactly? :tea:
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Post by Seth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:36 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Seth wrote:
FBM wrote:Seth, what do you think about merging this thread with the other one of the same title and general topic?
I think it's a way to marginalize the topic.
Which is a bad idea how exactly? :tea:
Depends on whether you are a person capable of logical, rational thought and debate or whether you are a fuckwit who wants to stifle debate.

Your choice.
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