The Next UK Election. What do you think?

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The Next UK Election. What do you think?

Post by mistermack » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:40 am

I think the Lib Dems will be humiliated. They have just about sealed the deal now.
UKIP is on the rise, Labour had a chance to bounce back, but chose the wrong leader. (again).

So we will have Labour well to the left, UKIP well to the right, and the Tories as the CENTRE party?

Who'd a thought it? I'm forecasting a Tory/UKIP coalition, with Dave in charge again.

But the bookies disagree, they have Labour as the favourites. I think no-overall-majority is a fantastic bet right now, if you are a betting man :


http://www.justbookies.com/Articles/ele ... tAodwHIABw
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:48 am

The Lib Dems need an extended period in the political wilderness, to think long and hard about what they've done.

UKIP having ministerial positions is truly terrifying, mind.

The economy is growing, so maybe Osborne will have enough in the kitty for a pre-election bribe.

Any result at all I wearisome and depressing
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Post by rainbow » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:32 am

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Post by Svartalf » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:34 am

Lucky you, I have to, it's the neighbours, and bothersome ones at that...
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Re: The Next UK Election. What do you think?

Post by rainbow » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:41 am

Svartalf wrote:Lucky you, I have to, it's the neighbours, and bothersome ones at that...
The same country that is responsible for this outrage:

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Post by mistermack » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:49 am

rainbow wrote:
Svartalf wrote:Lucky you, I have to, it's the neighbours, and bothersome ones at that...
The same country that is responsible for this outrage:

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Post by Audley Strange » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:17 pm

mistermack wrote:I think the Lib Dems will be humiliated. They have just about sealed the deal now.
UKIP is on the rise, Labour had a chance to bounce back, but chose the wrong leader. (again).

So we will have Labour well to the left, UKIP well to the right, and the Tories as the CENTRE party?

Who'd a thought it? I'm forecasting a Tory/UKIP coalition, with Dave in charge again.

But the bookies disagree, they have Labour as the favourites. I think no-overall-majority is a fantastic bet right now, if you are a betting man :


http://www.justbookies.com/Articles/ele ... tAodwHIABw
Too tough to consider. It only takes one or two things to sway a fickle public and I'd imagine all three leaders wives are getting boring dutiful sex in the hopes of positive "baby news", rather than the current "seriously fuck those oxbridge run-offs" attitude that all but the most chauvinistic of their supporters seem to have. So the fringe becomes more appealing. Also a lot depends on whether or not there is an yes to independence (it's looking doubtful) here in Scotland. I suspect another hung parliament, some bloody knives in the Liberal Camp and then another five years of the same.

As for the tories being the Centre party. Everyone in power tends to be the centre party here. I think the civil service and the lords might stop the political excesses of either wing.

Our democracy only needs fine tuned which is why every party tends to centre. The last thing we need is utopian do-gooders of any creed fucking everything up while trying to make it all better.
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Post by Rum » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:28 pm

Labour's 'cost of living crisis' agenda isn't getting anyone hot under the collar I fear. People are so cowed and brainwashed by the victory of capitalism, however temporary it may be, that they are grateful to get anything just above the minimum wage it seems. Fear has won the day.

The Tories will get in with a small majority is my forecast - assuming political weather that doesn't blow everything off course.

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Post by MrJonno » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:31 pm

The winner with be the first past the post system

Can easily seen far right Tories 35% , the complete lunatics UKIP 20% Labour 30% , Lib Dem's 5% and Labour winning the election (which would be the best outcome)
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:22 pm

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Post by Strontium Dog » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:03 pm

UKIP vote will fall away by 2015, people are happy to elect joke candidates in European elections but when it comes to the serious business of Westminster, not a chance. I'll be surprised if they wind up with any MPs, but they could well be spoilers in lots of places.

Anyone predicting/hoping for the death of liberalism in this country is going to be sorely disappointed. The Lib Dems will hold many seats where their opposition are Tories, but not as many where Labour is the main opposition.

No opposition has ever won an election with Labour's current polling figures, but history is only significant to an extent here, the UKIP element adds considerable uncertainty for the first time.

Whoever gets in will need to make further cuts to the size of the state; while it would be hilariously funny seeing Labour having to support and implement all the things they've been manufacturing outrage over for the past four years - and more besides - I can't see them winning a majority in their own right.

Of course, a year is a long way away, things could go tits up again in the meantime, but it's unlikely. Expect to see the coalition parties riding higher in the polls as they receive overdue credit for saving the country's economy.
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Re: The Next UK Election. What do you think?

Post by mistermack » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:44 pm

I think George Osborne has been like the surgeons from five hundred years ago.

They didn't have a clue what they were doing, they drew blood and applied leeches, they used all sorts of poisons, and did far more harm than good. But they were expert at claiming the credit, if the patient recovered.
And most patients do recover naturally, so they made a good living.

George Osborne is a 21st century bleeder. Osborne did almost everything wrong, he talked and dragged this country down into a much deeper recession than it would have had, and now, when the patient is showing signs of getting better, he's jumping up and down saying that he saved us.
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:59 pm

Strontium Dog wrote: Whoever gets in will need to make further cuts to the size of the state;
Nonsense. Cuts were never needed in the first place. Infrastructure investment would have boosted the economy and proper taxation from it would have wiped out the deficit. Even the Lib Dems are saying the Tory cuts are ideological.
Expect to see the coalition parties riding higher in the polls as they receive overdue credit for saving the country's economy.
You mean as they claim credit for something they haven't really done? The most they've managed to do is begin re-inflating the speculative bubble for the benefit of bankers and the excessively wealthy.
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Re: The Next UK Election. What do you think?

Post by Warren Dew » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:23 am

mistermack wrote:I think the Lib Dems will be humiliated. They have just about sealed the deal now.
UKIP is on the rise, Labour had a chance to bounce back, but chose the wrong leader. (again).

So we will have Labour well to the left, UKIP well to the right, and the Tories as the CENTRE party?

Who'd a thought it? I'm forecasting a Tory/UKIP coalition, with Dave in charge again.

But the bookies disagree, they have Labour as the favourites. I think no-overall-majority is a fantastic bet right now, if you are a betting man :


http://www.justbookies.com/Articles/ele ... tAodwHIABw
It's amazing how Cameron has managed to take credit for the results of the effective LibDem economic policies, while managing to shift the blame the LibDems for all the bad results of the Tory policies. I think he's just a better politician, which suggests he'll be PM again, one way or another.

I do think the Tories are pretty centrist. It's like in the U.S., with the Democrats to the left, the Libertarians to the "right", and the Republicans in the center.

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