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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:27 am

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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I couldn't get half way through Main Kampf. It's dull, repetitive, rambling bollocks.
I had a very different experience. I thought it was unimaginative, redundant and failed to establish a clear premise.
Which just goes to show something.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:41 am

FBM wrote:I also gave up on Being and Nothingness. Before that I'd given up on Being and Time, but for a different reason. I just couldn't see devoting the rest of my life to spending 3 days per page figuring out wtf Heidegger was saying.
Haha, Heidegger: "Das Dasein ist ein Seiendes, das nicht nur unter anderem Seienden vorkommt. Es ist vielmehr dadurch ontisch ausgezeichnet, daß es diesem Seienden in seinem Sein um dieses Sein selbst geht. [...] Das Sein dieses Seienden ist je meines. Im Sein dieses Seienden verhält sich dieses selbst zu seinem Sein. Als Seiendes dieses Seins ist es seinem eigenen Sein überantwortet. Das Sein ist es, darum es diesem Seienden je selbst geht" So purely gibberish, it's almost on its own ontisch ausgezeichneter Ebene.
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I couldn't get half way through Main Kampf. It's dull, repetitive, rambling bollocks.
I had a very different experience. I thought it was unimaginative, redundant and failed to establish a clear premise.
Which just goes to show something.
A perfect example of it, I'd say.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:56 am

FBM wrote: :twitch:
Let me disabuse you of the notion that it makes more sense when translated into English. Here is one:
Dasein is an entity which does not just occur among other entities. Rather it is ontically distinguished by the fact that, in its very Being, that Being is an issue for it. But in that case, this is a constitutive case of Dasein's Being, and it implies that Dasein, in its Being, has a relationship towards that being - a relationship which itself is one of Being. And this means further that there is some way in which Dasein understands itself in its Being, and that to some degree it does so explicitly. It is peculiar to this entity that with and through its Being, this Being is disclosed to it. Understanding of Being is itself a definite characteristic of Dasein's Being. Dasein is ontically distinctive in that it is ontological.

Martin Heidegger: Being and Time, John Macquarrie and Edward Robinson (transl.) Wiley-Blackwell, 1962, p 32 (Link)
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Post by FBM » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:58 am

It's undergrad all over again! :hairfire: :hairfire: :hairfire:
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Post by colubridae » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:11 am

I've read the bible (GJV) and Mein Kampf (English translation) and IMNSHO there's very little to choose between the two.

They both express vile and violent outlooks, they both espouse genocide, etc.

They both have a small amount of positive points, so that highly selective cherry picking can skew their images.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:23 am

I wonder what Adolf read furtively.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:27 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:I wonder what Adolf read furtively.
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Hermit wrote:
FBM wrote: :twitch:
Let me disabuse you of the notion that it makes more sense when translated into English. Here is one:
Dasein is an entity which does not just occur among other entities. Rather it is ontically distinguished by the fact that, in its very Being, that Being is an issue for it. But in that case, this is a constitutive case of Dasein's Being, and it implies that Dasein, in its Being, has a relationship towards that being - a relationship which itself is one of Being. And this means further that there is some way in which Dasein understands itself in its Being, and that to some degree it does so explicitly. It is peculiar to this entity that with and through its Being, this Being is disclosed to it. Understanding of Being is itself a definite characteristic of Dasein's Being. Dasein is ontically distinctive in that it is ontological.

Martin Heidegger: Being and Time, John Macquarrie and Edward Robinson (transl.) Wiley-Blackwell, 1962, p 32 (Link)
                      

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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Hermit wrote:
FBM wrote: :twitch:
Let me disabuse you of the notion that it makes more sense when translated into English. Here is one:
Dasein is an entity which does not just occur among other entities. Rather it is ontically distinguished by the fact that, in its very Being, that Being is an issue for it. But in that case, this is a constitutive case of Dasein's Being, and it implies that Dasein, in its Being, has a relationship towards that being - a relationship which itself is one of Being. And this means further that there is some way in which Dasein understands itself in its Being, and that to some degree it does so explicitly. It is peculiar to this entity that with and through its Being, this Being is disclosed to it. Understanding of Being is itself a definite characteristic of Dasein's Being. Dasein is ontically distinctive in that it is ontological.

Martin Heidegger: Being and Time, John Macquarrie and Edward Robinson (transl.) Wiley-Blackwell, 1962, p 32 (Link)
                      

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Post by Hermit » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:50 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Hermit wrote:
FBM wrote: :twitch:
Let me disabuse you of the notion that it makes more sense when translated into English. Here is one:
Dasein is an entity which does not just occur among other entities. Rather it is ontically distinguished by the fact that, in its very Being, that Being is an issue for it. But in that case, this is a constitutive case of Dasein's Being, and it implies that Dasein, in its Being, has a relationship towards that being - a relationship which itself is one of Being. And this means further that there is some way in which Dasein understands itself in its Being, and that to some degree it does so explicitly. It is peculiar to this entity that with and through its Being, this Being is disclosed to it. Understanding of Being is itself a definite characteristic of Dasein's Being. Dasein is ontically distinctive in that it is ontological.

Martin Heidegger: Being and Time, John Macquarrie and Edward Robinson (transl.) Wiley-Blackwell, 1962, p 32 (Link)
                      

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FBM wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Hermit wrote:
FBM wrote: :twitch:
Let me disabuse you of the notion that it makes more sense when translated into English. Here is one:
Dasein is an entity which does not just occur among other entities. Rather it is ontically distinguished by the fact that, in its very Being, that Being is an issue for it. But in that case, this is a constitutive case of Dasein's Being, and it implies that Dasein, in its Being, has a relationship towards that being - a relationship which itself is one of Being. And this means further that there is some way in which Dasein understands itself in its Being, and that to some degree it does so explicitly. It is peculiar to this entity that with and through its Being, this Being is disclosed to it. Understanding of Being is itself a definite characteristic of Dasein's Being. Dasein is ontically distinctive in that it is ontological.

Martin Heidegger: Being and Time, John Macquarrie and Edward Robinson (transl.) Wiley-Blackwell, 1962, p 32 (Link)
                      

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Like anybody would ever be able to decipher it...
No need for it. I have made a personal attack on Dasein four years ago in no uncertain manner. It went straight under the radar. Unfortunately Heidegger was already long dead then, so the intended effect on him never eventuated.
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Post by FBM » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:19 pm

Well. Let that be a lesson to you, then. :paddle: Or perhaps :tup: Hard to say with Heidegger. :think:
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Post by JimC » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:57 am

I would be extremely embarrassed to be caught furtively reading Calculus for Dummies...
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