Who says the Christmas spirit doesn't exist?

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Re: Who says the Christmas spirit doesn't exist?

Post by Svartalf » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:51 am

JimC wrote:Gin exists...
No it doesn't, that bottle you're showing as proof is now empty
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Re: Who says the Christmas spirit doesn't exist?

Post by Seth » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:14 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
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rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, Seth is right. I don't think there's any such thing as pure altruism. Although, it's pretty hard to quantify these things in the context of "the mind" and "free will" etc. But there's certainly a big difference in motives. Giving to charity out of some sort of sympathy/empathy reasons (and the resulting feel good sensation you get after that) is way different from performing "charity" because you want to make more money. One is a very basic human emotion, the other is a form of legalised greed. Two very different things.
Not really. If Bill Gates donates 40 million dollars to a charitable cause and doing so earns him another 50 million dollars that's 50 more millions of dollars he has at his disposal to be charitable with, and the beneficiaries of the 40 million benefit regardless of either his motives or his eventual profits.

Charity is charity. You just bloviate because you don't like the idea that a corporation might make more money on the back end. You don't give a fuck what it does to benefit the people who received the gifts. We like to call that "dog in the manger" behavior, which is very typical of the clinically deranged personalities of socialists.
All I'm doing is pointing out that the two scenarios aren't equivalent. They are to the recipient, but don't try and push the false narrative that corporations give a fuck about anything other than the bottom line.
Maybe they do. Corporate social responsibility is hardly an unknown thing. Just look at the Gates Foundation. Or Warren Buffett. Charity, altruism and profit are not mutually exclusive goals.
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Re: Who says the Christmas spirit doesn't exist?

Post by JimC » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:21 pm

Svartalf wrote:
JimC wrote:Gin exists...
No it doesn't, that bottle you're showing as proof is now empty
I have transubstantiated the gin in my body into pure happiness... :levi:
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!

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Re: Who says the Christmas spirit doesn't exist?

Post by Svartalf » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:33 pm

Mmmh, interesting theory, let's see how it survives experimentation :plot:
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Re: Who says the Christmas spirit doesn't exist?

Post by piscator » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:38 pm

JimC wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
JimC wrote:Gin exists...
No it doesn't, that bottle you're showing as proof is now empty
I have transubstantiated the gin in my body into pure happiness... :levi:

You just rented it. :biggrin:

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