3D Printed Gun Parts Found in Greater Manchester

[piscator]

Mix sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate. Alternatively, a mix of Diesel and nitrate based fertiliser will create a suitable bang too.

This post ought to attract the attention of the NSA, by the way. I expect my phones to be bugged and my emails harvested soon, if they are not already.

You can also partially dissolve cotton fibers in nitric acid to make a crude form of cordite ("smokeless" powder).

[laklak]

30 cops busting in to arrest a guy for making toys. I'd like to have seen that, I always enjoyed the Keystone Cops when I was a kid.

[jaydot]

another stupid non-story initiated on poor intelligence. poor sod of a shopkeeper will probably suffer nightmares now.

regarding surveillance, anyone with half a grain of common sense understands that we've all been counted and categorised since the dawn of tally sticks. said surveillance has simply become more sophisticated as technology advanced.

[Seth]

I'd like to know how the police knew he'd bought a 3D printer and what made them think he was making gun parts.

It's called "the surveillance state." Derp.

You think the NSA is the only intelligence organization peering over our shoulders every minute of every day? We're just the very best at it, and you never would have found out except for a traitor.

Nor is the NSA going to stop doing it, no matter how much France or anybody else bitches.

It is an odd libertarian that celebrates the efficiency of those who wish to monitor them without consent.

I'm not celebrating it, I'm stating facts.

[Seth]

Mix sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate. Alternatively, a mix of Diesel and nitrate based fertiliser will create a suitable bang too.

This post ought to attract the attention of the NSA, by the way. I expect my phones to be bugged and my emails harvested soon, if they are not already.

They are.

The problem with ANFO (Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil) is that it's a "low explosive" and requires a high-explosive booster charge to get the detonation started, so you have to have det cord, plastique, dynamite or suchlike to make it go bang. Blasting caps can do it. I know that because I used something called "kinepack" one time on the ranch (legally...back when you could buy it at the hardware store). It's ammonium nitrate prills in a plastic tube that comes with a small container of what I believe was nitromethane or something similar. You tear the top off the AN and add the liquid to the tube, crimp the end over and put a plastic clip on it, knead it for about two minutes and then set it aside for 20 minutes to activate fully. As sold it's not an explosive and can be carried in your car perfectly safely and it doesn't have to be stored in an approved explosives magazine like dynamite and det cord do. Mixed it's the equivalent of dynamite. Insert a blasting cap, either electrically fired or fused, and you get a very satisfactory bang.

ANFO requires a blast wave at about 20,000 feet per second to initiate the detonation, and you can't obtain that without a high-explosive of some sort. You can shoot ANFO and not set it off, although ammonium nitrate does become unstable and can detonate spontaneously if heated too much, which is what caused a tremendous explosion in Texas City, Texas in 1947, and also what blew up the fertilizer plant in West, Texas in April of this year.

[Audley Strange]

I'd like to know how the police knew he'd bought a 3D printer and what made them think he was making gun parts.

It's called "the surveillance state." Derp.

You think the NSA is the only intelligence organization peering over our shoulders every minute of every day? We're just the very best at it, and you never would have found out except for a traitor.

Nor is the NSA going to stop doing it, no matter how much France or anybody else bitches.

It is an odd libertarian that celebrates the efficiency of those who wish to monitor them without consent.

I'm not celebrating it, I'm stating facts.

If you insist.

We're just the very best at it, and you never would have found out except for a traitor.

Sounds like flag waving to me Seth. Sounds a bit "USA We're number one."

Fair enough. Thing is, from my POV, the NSA has spectacularly failed in being even baseline functional, I can't think of many other countries who's agents saturate the press with secret information. Very best? I doubt they're even the best surveillance industry in the U.S.

[Seth]

If you insist.

We're just the very best at it, and you never would have found out except for a traitor.

Sounds like flag waving to me Seth. Sounds a bit "USA We're number one."

We are. It's a fact. We have the most expansive and sophisticated intelligence network on earth. And stealing national security secrets and releasing them is "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" which is the definition of treason. Pure fact.

Fair enough. Thing is, from my POV, the NSA has spectacularly failed in being even baseline functional, I can't think of many other countries who's agents saturate the press with secret information. Very best? I doubt they're even the best surveillance industry in the U.S.

Well, yes, Wikileaks and Snowden are epic fails, but that doesn't diminish the effectiveness of our intelligence community. It's still the best.

[stripes4]

I suppose it was only a matter of time. Police have raided a house in Wythenshawe and found a 3D printer and printed plastic gun parts, as well as home made gunpowder. Thanks, America!

It's only a matter of time before toddlers are printing guns off and taking them to nursery.

Maybe the internet was a terrible mistake....

Manc!

[FBM]

If I had a 3D printer, I'd print a 3D printer that was capable of printing 3D printers that could print guns.

[pErvinalia]

If I had a 3D printer, I'd print a 3D printer that was capable of printing 3D printers that could print guns.

3d printers => Skynet.

[FBM]

If I had a 3D printer, I'd print a 3D printer that was capable of printing 3D printers that could print guns.

3d printers => Skynet.

And when it achieves self-awareness...profit.

[klr]

I'm surprised people haven't found another dimension to this story.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

So, what made them think he was producing gun parts?

[Jason]

I'm surprised people haven't found another dimension to this story.

Timeless.