Twice as many vCJD carriers as thought.....

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Re: Twice as many vCJD carriers as thought.....

Post by colubridae » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:05 pm

rEvolutionist wrote: So basically as long as we don't start cannibalising each other, we should be fine? ;)
If Jesus had CJD would it pass through transubstansation?

food for thought for catholics. :hehe:
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Re: Twice as many vCJD carriers as thought.....

Post by JimC » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:59 pm

colubridae wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So basically as long as we don't start cannibalising each other, we should be fine? ;)
If Jesus had CJD would it pass through transubstansation?

food for thought for catholics. :hehe:
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But they would be Holy Prions, so it's OK...
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Re: Twice as many vCJD carriers as thought.....

Post by PsychoSerenity » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:11 am

Alwasy thought this is a fucking scary thing to get though very unlickly. Your brain rotting from the inside molecule by molecule, and you only realise when the world stops making sense. Does it now? :nervous:
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:14 am

PsychoSerenity wrote:Alwasy thought this is a fucking scary thing to get though very unlickly. Your brain rotting from the inside molecule by molecule, and you only realise when the world stops making sense. Does it now? :nervous:
Not a lot of difference between that and a session at Wetherspoons in Barry then? :hehe:
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Re: Twice as many vCJD carriers as thought.....

Post by Warren Dew » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:40 am

mistermack wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So basically as long as we don't start cannibalising each other, we should be fine? ;)
It's probably better if we don't.

Having said that, I would like to know exactly what they are doing with the brains and nerve tissue from sheep and cows these days. It's not like industry to waste anything that they can make money from.
In the U.S., last I heard, it was banned from use in cow feed, but not from use in chicken or pig feed.

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Re: Twice as many vCJD carriers as thought.....

Post by JimC » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:59 am

Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So basically as long as we don't start cannibalising each other, we should be fine? ;)
It's probably better if we don't.

Having said that, I would like to know exactly what they are doing with the brains and nerve tissue from sheep and cows these days. It's not like industry to waste anything that they can make money from.
In the U.S., last I heard, it was banned from use in cow feed, but not from use in chicken or pig feed.
One would hope then that a very thorough research program has proved conclusively that prion infections cannot move to chickens or pigs...

But perhaps that would be too much like government interference for the US...
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Re: Twice as many vCJD carriers as thought.....

Post by Warren Dew » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:25 am

JimC wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So basically as long as we don't start cannibalising each other, we should be fine? ;)
It's probably better if we don't.

Having said that, I would like to know exactly what they are doing with the brains and nerve tissue from sheep and cows these days. It's not like industry to waste anything that they can make money from.
In the U.S., last I heard, it was banned from use in cow feed, but not from use in chicken or pig feed.
One would hope then that a very thorough research program has proved conclusively that prion infections cannot move to chickens or pigs...

But perhaps that would be too much like government interference for the US...
This was based on lack of research on whether chickens or pigs could get any form of the disease. Note that these were the government regulations, so it just shows how bad our regulations are.

The more relevant fact is that the U.S. cows from which the brains and nerve tissue come are likely free of prion disease, based on the disease having been detected in the U.S. only in one cow recently imported from Canada. Well, and in wild deer, which aren't allowed to enter the farm system, so only hunters have to worry about that.

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Re: Twice as many vCJD carriers as thought.....

Post by mistermack » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:32 am

Warren Dew wrote:
JimC wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So basically as long as we don't start cannibalising each other, we should be fine? ;)
It's probably better if we don't.

Having said that, I would like to know exactly what they are doing with the brains and nerve tissue from sheep and cows these days. It's not like industry to waste anything that they can make money from.
In the U.S., last I heard, it was banned from use in cow feed, but not from use in chicken or pig feed.
One would hope then that a very thorough research program has proved conclusively that prion infections cannot move to chickens or pigs...

But perhaps that would be too much like government interference for the US...
This was based on lack of research on whether chickens or pigs could get any form of the disease. Note that these were the government regulations, so it just shows how bad our regulations are.

The more relevant fact is that the U.S. cows from which the brains and nerve tissue come are likely free of prion disease, based on the disease having been detected in the U.S. only in one cow recently imported from Canada. Well, and in wild deer, which aren't allowed to enter the farm system, so only hunters have to worry about that.
Chickens and pigs don't live long enough to incubate the disease, so it might be that they can carry some of the prions without any visible or detectable signs.
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