China to keep Britain's lights on....

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China to keep Britain's lights on....

Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:51 am

The lights will stay on in Blighty. Unless we criticise the Chinese about Tibet. Or anything else. It's been announced that the Chinese will have a stake in the next generation of nuclear power plants in the UK, possibly, eventually, a majority stake. I suppose beggars can't be choosers. Sign of another Great British Failure, we had the world's first civil nuclear power station and now we can neither build nor fund the things ourselves.

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Post by cronus » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:52 am

I like the Chinese. :prof:
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Post by JimC » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:54 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:The lights will stay on in Blighty. Unless we criticise the Chinese about Tibet. Or anything else. It's been announced that the Chinese will have a stake in the next generation of nuclear power plants in the UK, possibly, eventually, a majority stake. I suppose beggars can't be choosers. Sign of another Great British Failure, we had the world's first civil nuclear power station and now we can neither build nor fund the things ourselves.

What a world - we have to buy oil from despots, gas from despots and soon electricity from despots.
Check both the hardware and the software for little "surprises", which could be activated in future if you don't toe the line...
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:58 am

Won't need hiddern hardware, Jim. There'll just be a big switch in Beijing marked "Britain: On/Off"
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Post by cronus » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:03 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:Won't need hiddern hardware, Jim. There'll just be a big switch in Beijing marked "Britain: On/Off"
They are short of women - maybe we could send them some of ours in exchange for all this? :coffee:
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:07 am

Trade with China is a mistake. They're only a charismatic leader away from trying some Nazi styled world conquest plans, and we gave them the technology to do so.
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Re: China to keep Britain's lights on....

Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:07 am

Scrumple wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Won't need hiddern hardware, Jim. There'll just be a big switch in Beijing marked "Britain: On/Off"
They are short of women - maybe we could send them some of ours in exchange for all this? :coffee:
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Post by cronus » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:09 am

Tyrannical wrote:Trade with China is a mistake. They're only a charismatic leader away from trying some Nazi styled world conquest plans, and we gave them the technology to do so.
I don't think the world ever worked like that....a warning from history shows despots are a product of viciousness from below not a maker of it. :coffee:
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:21 am

Scrumple wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Trade with China is a mistake. They're only a charismatic leader away from trying some Nazi styled world conquest plans, and we gave them the technology to do so.
I don't think the world ever worked like that....a warning from history shows despots are a product of viciousness from below not a maker of it. :coffee:
China's government in it's current form isn't that different from Hitler's National Socialism.
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Post by rainbow » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:48 am

Scrumple wrote:I like the Chinese. :prof:
We in Africa like them, especially with sweet and sour sauce.
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Post by mistermack » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:04 am

Tyrannical wrote:
Scrumple wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Trade with China is a mistake. They're only a charismatic leader away from trying some Nazi styled world conquest plans, and we gave them the technology to do so.
I don't think the world ever worked like that....a warning from history shows despots are a product of viciousness from below not a maker of it. :coffee:
China's government in it's current form isn't that different from Hitler's National Socialism.
Oh, I seeeeeeeeeeeee.

It was Hitlers FORM OF GOVERNMENT that made him do all that stuff. So it wasn't his fault after all ?
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Re: China to keep Britain's lights on....

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:07 am

Oh, I seeeeeeeeeeeee.

It was Hitlers FORM OF GOVERNMENT that made him do all that stuff. So it wasn't his fault after all ?
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I don't see how you inferred that was what I meant, I think Nazi Germany and China currently had similar forms of government. I'm afraid all China is missing IS a Hitler for them to get expansionist.

China practices nationalism by espousing superiority through both race and culture of Han Chinese at the expense of other minorities. Hitler thought the Aryans were some master race, I think the Chinese think that about themselves.

China abandoned Marxist economics and sort of embraced some capitalism / socialism, but the state still control the major means of production.
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Re: China to keep Britain's lights on....

Post by mistermack » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:03 pm

Tyrannical wrote: I don't see how you inferred that was what I meant, I think Nazi Germany and China currently had similar forms of government. I'm afraid all China is missing IS a Hitler for them to get expansionist.
You've got a very simplistic view of history and politics.
You're just repeating the theory that a form of government only needs one man to come along, and bingo, nazi germany is duplicated.
That's just completely ludicrous. It happened once, so it will ALWAYS happen, if similar circumstances arise again?
If only life was that predictable.
Well it isn't. There are probably tens of thousands of people like Hitler in China. If not millions. And yet you think it would only take one. Hitler was nothing special. He was just there, when stuff was happening around him, and he made the most of it.
If China was in that state, then that shit would be happening now. But it isn't. The little Hitlers are not getting a look in.
Because the environment is totally different.
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Re: China to keep Britain's lights on....

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:51 pm

Do interesting men create interesting times, or do interesting times create interesting men? An old philosophical question and not just a simplistic view of history :zilla:
Anyways, you are still missing the point, the potential is already there in China. Imagine Nazi Germany before the start of WWII, say Hitler died of a heart attack in '39 before invading Poland but after Austria and German Czechoslovakia. The current government of China (Tibet and Mongolia) is not far off from pre-WWII Germany under national socialism. Be wary if someone charismatic like Mao arises in China.
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Re: China to keep Britain's lights on....

Post by cronus » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:22 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Do interesting men create interesting times, or do interesting times create interesting men? An old philosophical question and not just a simplistic view of history :zilla:
Anyways, you are still missing the point, the potential is already there in China. Imagine Nazi Germany before the start of WWII, say Hitler died of a heart attack in '39 before invading Poland but after Austria and German Czechoslovakia. The current government of China (Tibet and Mongolia) is not far off from pre-WWII Germany under national socialism. Be wary if someone charismatic like Mao arises in China.
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