Obama slams Republicans for threat to blow up entire economy

[pErvinalia]

They should cut military funding to pay for affordable health care. It would save peoples lives not only in America, but also in the countries it bombs. Stop funding Israel to terrorise the Palestinians too. That's a couple of billion per year saved.

[Coito ergo sum]

Let's stop funding both the Israelis and the Palestinians, and the Egyptians, and the Saudis and the Jordanians....

...then, we can save money letting the Euros and the Oceanios handle the situation from here on out.

[cronus]

Let's stop funding both the Israelis and the Palestinians, and the Egyptians, and the Saudis and the Jordanians....

...then, we can save money letting the Euros and the Oceanios handle the situation from here on out.

...yeah, wallet empty so stop spending other folks monies on other folks issues.

[Coito ergo sum]

Let's stop funding both the Israelis and the Palestinians, and the Egyptians, and the Saudis and the Jordanians....

...then, we can save money letting the Euros and the Oceanios handle the situation from here on out.

...yeah, wallet empty so stop spending other folks monies on other folks issues.

Well said, particularly when said other folks are clearly not in favor of it. If folks don't want your help, best to back out. Just make a clear note of being told to fuck off, so when they come back later and ask "why did you abandon us?" then the answer will be clear.

[cronus]

Let's stop funding both the Israelis and the Palestinians, and the Egyptians, and the Saudis and the Jordanians....

...then, we can save money letting the Euros and the Oceanios handle the situation from here on out.

...yeah, wallet empty so stop spending other folks monies on other folks issues.

Well said, particularly when said other folks are clearly not in favor of it. If folks don't want your help, best to back out. Just make a clear note of being told to fuck off, so when they come back later and ask "why did you abandon us?" then the answer will be clear.

No one wants to know you when your down and out. Don't kid yourself. We've lost a Empire and know what it takes to eat the humble pie and come down from that mountain.

[Coito ergo sum]

Well, you may have come down from the mountain, but the humble pie seems to still be steaming on the window sill.

[cronus]

Well, you may have come down from the mountain, but the humble pie seems to still be steaming on the window sill.

Modern people behind the front end nobs though.

[Seth]

This is not looking good.

What's bad about it?

Nothing, if you like the idea of a government being crippled, your nation being a laughing stock, and the sheer glee of the Chinese...

I'm okay with that...go read Sun Tsu.

[Seth]

There are strands of American thought that would like to retreat behind a "fortress America", snarling occasionally at the rest of the world...

A mythical Hollywood America is no place to retreat to when everyone but everyone is packing gnus and ammunition to be friendly with neighbours. I predict carnage once the intravenous injections of Chinese goods & distractions is noticed to be missing.....lots of angry unemployed truckers and lots of blood on the streets.

Just stay off the streets for a little while and the problem solves itself.

[Seth]

Of course George Bush is to blame for the problem. He spent the money, and didn't take the tax.

The Bush administration increased federal government spending from $1.789 trillion to $2.983 trillion (60%) while revenues increased from $2.025 trillion to $2.524 trillion (from 2000 to 2008).

If Obama had inherited the same finances that George Bush did, there wouldn't be a problem.

Yes there would. I keep telling you that Bush and Obama are the same in most respects. They are both big-government Progressives. George Bush's icon was Woodrow Wilson after all. Bush differs from Obama only in ultimate political leaning. Remember how I told you that totalitarianism lies at both ends of the political ring, left and right? Obama's totalitarianism is Marxist in origin, Bush's was oligarchical in origin, but they both did the same thing; increased the size and power of government immensely for the purpose of increasing the size and power of government and concentrating authority in the Executive branch while marginalizing the other branches. That's what Progressivism IS.

[pErvinalia]

OMG! Seth just criticised Bush! Did I just see that?!?

[Seth]

OMG! Seth just criticised Bush! Did I just see that?!?

Why does it surprise you? I've been criticizing him for years. Evidently you haven't been paying attention.

The last half-way decent President we had was Reagan. Everybody since then is basically a fuckwit of one sort or another.

[pErvinalia]

I've never seen you criticise him, as far as I can remember. But I have to admit, I haven't paid attention to anything you've written in about the last two years.

[klr]

So all is now sweetness and light it would seem:

US shutdown: Senate reaches fiscal deal

Republican and Democratic leaders of the US Senate have struck a cross-party deal to end a partial government shutdown and raise the US debt limit.

Their bill must also pass the House, where a small group of Republicans are expected to join Democrats to send the bill to President Barack Obama.

The bill extends the federal borrowing limit until 7 February and funds the government to 15 January.

It comes just a day before the deadline to raise the $16.7tn (£10.5tn) limit.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24557469

[cronus]

It was a nerve tingler. Be back here again in February then?