Would You Torture a Baby to End World Suffering?

[cowiz]

Question for those that answered "yes". Would you swap the baby for yourself to gain the same outcome?

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Question for those that answered "yes". Would you swap the baby for yourself to gain the same outcome?

Fuck no. What use is a perfect, suffering-free world to me if I am not in it?

[cowiz]

Question for those that answered "yes". Would you swap the baby for yourself to gain the same outcome?

Fuck no. What use is a perfect, suffering-free world to me if I am not in it?

True, without you the world could never be perfect. You complete us all.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Question for those that answered "yes". Would you swap the baby for yourself to gain the same outcome?

Fuck no. What use is a perfect, suffering-free world to me if I am not in it?

True, without you the world could never be perfect. You complete us all.

The cheque is in the post.

[Mallardz]

Surely;
The greater good
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the some one

And the life of a baby is short humans could be around for millions of years surely the action would not have an effect for just our time but onwards for the whole of our planets existence. Even after humanity.

It's mankinds fault for being in the current state that it is. Resulting in torture of an infant for a short cut to our perfect would without any work being done to make it is a very cheap, curruptive and evil way to go about it, we'd have nothing to look back on in archivement of our actions. We made this mess, we clean it up. Even if it was possible to end all our problems that we made by ending an inocent life, I would never support it. If we want a perfect world, we need to build it.

Well that's just me.

You're a person of many fine morales.
Unfortunately we won't build it ourselves. Religion fights everything that can be a long term greater good.
Now away with me

[cowiz]

Question for those that answered "yes". Would you swap the baby for yourself to gain the same outcome?

Fuck no. What use is a perfect, suffering-free world to me if I am not in it?

True, without you the world could never be perfect. You complete us all.

The cheque is in the post.

You had me at "cheque"

***derailing my own thread - what a twat***

[Mallardz]

Question for those that answered "yes". Would you swap the baby for yourself to gain the same outcome?

Why take away my understanding?
Why make me a confused baby who only understands the fact I hurt.

Why not leave me as I am hang me upside down stick a needle in the back of my neck and leave me to drip dry.
I'd do it.

[Feck]

IF I thought that the world would be a better place without me then I wouldn't be here,BUT nothing will improve for the lack of an EDDY or for the pain of one baby

[Ace]

You're a person of many fine morales.
Unfortunately we won't build it ourselves. Religion fights everything that can be a long term greater good.
Now away with me

Of course we won't build it. If you got a choice between a cold pint and hot women instead of back breaking labour, which would you choose?

[klr]

Please, can we keep on track here? This is a serious area, and a serious subject.

There are plenty of real-world "cases" where people have been faced with this decision.

[Arse]

I say no because the baby gets no say in it. If it was a sane adult who consented to be tortured to death to stop all the suffering in the world yes, but not an unwilling victim.

[klr]

I say no because the baby gets no say in it. If it was a sane adult who consented to be tortured to death to stop all the suffering in the world yes, but not an unwilling victim.

In the set of "morality" cases discussed in The God Delusion, this was one of the deciding factors. You might kill one person to save five, but if that one person has no say, and no responsibility for whatever might have happened/may happen to the others, it doesn't seem the right thing to do for most people.

But still ...

[klr]

BTW, the original topic topic over yonder is here:

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtop ... 18&t=86825

[Feck]

Philosophically that might be true but let's face it there are a whole planet worth of suffering babies, If you could stop it all by causing the suffering of ONE .Then I call you a coward
if you dither about with Choices ,You might be the one to explain to that child when it grows up why it lives in a world full of pain .

silly question really and know I know that it's an RD thing I have even less interest ,If a tree falls in a forest etc etc etc

[Beelzebub2]

Could you do it if it was your baby - to save the world of babies?

To sacrifice one to save all, without a consent of the one that is to be sacrificed? Not IMO.