The case against guns

[JimC]

Another mass shooting in Chicago, apparently...

Almost as common as car bombs in Iraq...

[Tero]

They had heated feelings. Feelings cause shootin'. And religion.

[Collector1337]

Maybe.
...but at least they can walk down the street, send their children to school or university, go to the local church or temple - with the reasonable expectation that nobody will start shooting at them.

No not "maybe." Definitely.

You honestly believe I'm worried about people randomly shooting at me or my children?



You are completely fucking paranoid, literally to a clinical level.

If you are so paranoid about guns, that you want to impose on other people because of your asinine fears, and if you were in America, you'd be worried about getting shot, that is a clinical level of paranoia. I'm not joking. Seek professional help.

[Bella Fortuna]

Yeah. Cos humans are always rational and calm and would never act in the heat of the moment or from some crazy motivation.

Two men are dead in Ionia, Michigan after a road rage incident escalated into a shootout Wednesday. Police say that James Pullum, 43, and Robert Taylor, 56 apparently argued after Taylor became enraged over something that occurred while driving though the details are not clear as to exactly what precipitated the incident.

Witnesses say that Pullum who had his wife and mother in the vehicle with him pulled into the parking lot of a car wash and Taylor who was at the time tailgating him followed him in. Both men exited their vehicles and began to argue as the argument escalated, Taylor pulled his gun and began to fire. Pullum, who was also carrying a gun, drew his and returned fire. Both men apparently died at the scene.

Pullums mother-in-law says that her son-in-law was protecting his family and that he was a “great person, a great family man and a great businessman.” He owned a service station in Ionia. Other details are vague and police say they are having difficulty piecing together what happened since both men are dead. They also said that both men had concealed carry permits and were legally carrying their weapons.

[Collector1337]

Another mass shooting in Chicago, apparently...

Almost as common as car bombs in Iraq...

A shooting in Chicago where guns are banned??!?!?!

BUT THAT COULD NEVER HAPPEN!



Fucking idiots.

[Collector1337]

Yeah. Cos humans are always rational and calm and would never act in the heat of the moment or from some crazy motivation.

Two men are dead in Ionia, Michigan after a road rage incident escalated into a shootout Wednesday. Police say that James Pullum, 43, and Robert Taylor, 56 apparently argued after Taylor became enraged over something that occurred while driving though the details are not clear as to exactly what precipitated the incident.

Witnesses say that Pullum who had his wife and mother in the vehicle with him pulled into the parking lot of a car wash and Taylor who was at the time tailgating him followed him in. Both men exited their vehicles and began to argue as the argument escalated, Taylor pulled his gun and began to fire. Pullum, who was also carrying a gun, drew his and returned fire. Both men apparently died at the scene.

Pullums mother-in-law says that her son-in-law was protecting his family and that he was a “great person, a great family man and a great businessman.” He owned a service station in Ionia. Other details are vague and police say they are having difficulty piecing together what happened since both men are dead. They also said that both men had concealed carry permits and were legally carrying their weapons.

And these two idiots' rage issues are my problem because why?

These two morons are Darwin Award winners.

Tell me why I should ever give a fuck about this?

[Coito ergo sum]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09 ... e-on-guns/

[Seth]

Another very amusing read.

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2013/ ... editorial/

From that article:

As usual whenever there is a mass shooting on the news, the ignorant come out of the woodwork to pontificate about a topic they know absolutely nothing about, setting up straw men and knocking them down, and matching wits with phantoms. This one was particularly obnoxious in its self-righteousness, but it is still fairly useful in that it demonstrates a lot of the defective logic that goes into the gun control side of things.

Do Americans see these mass shootings as inevitable, something you just have to live with?

The rest of the civilised world don't seem to think so.

The rest of the civilized world is fill with idiots.

Shootings are inevitable, even in the UK. The question is whether or not an intended victim of a shooting is able to be armed for self-defense or if he's been deliberately and with malice aforethought disarmed by his government on the stupid notion that disarming him will have some effect on disarming his attacker.

Stupid fucks.

Maybe.
...but at least they can walk down the street, send their children to school or university, go to the local church or temple - with the reasonable expectation that nobody will start shooting at them.

So can I, and 99 percent of the rest of the parents in the United States.

What you're suggesting is kind of like demanding that they close down every pub in the UK because a couple of hooligans have a fight in a tavern in Glasgow.

[rainbow]

You are completely fucking paranoid, literally to a clinical level.

If you are so paranoid about guns, that you want to impose on other people because of your asinine fears, and if you were in America, you'd be worried about getting shot, that is a clinical level of paranoia. I'm not joking. Seek professional help.

I'm not in America, so I've no need to be paranoid. I also never feel the need to carry a gun, or even own one.
You see, I live in a civilised country where random shootings don't happen.

[Collector1337]

I'm not in America, so I've no need to be paranoid.

Huh? So, you admit, if you were in America, you'd be paranoid?

So I was right, your paranoia is indeed to a clinical level.

I also never feel the need to carry a gun, or even own one.

And I give a shit because why?

That has what to do with me?

You are another ethnocentric bigot who totally ignores my culture and thinks yours is better than mine.

If you think my primary reason for owning firearms is for defense, then you're just an ignoramus who knows nothing about my culture.

You see, I live in a civilised country where random shootings don't happen.

More ethnocentrism and bigotry. You should be ashamed of yourself.

It says your location is "Africa." That's specific.

Africa is where all the "civilized" countries are now? That's a hilarious joke. Africa is the last place I think of when I think of the word "civilized." Africa is last place I'd ever want to go.

If you actually believe "Africa" is safer than where I live, then you must fucking smoke crack.

You want to know why I am better than you?

Because I do not judge your culture. I am perfectly happy with letting you live any way you want to. I'm not going to impose on you. I'm not going to try and make you be like me.

But, you on the other hand, what makes you a bad person, is that you won't just let me be. You want to impose on me.

Could you explain to me why you feel the need to make me be like you and impose your beliefs on me?

You don't want to own a gun? That's fine. I don't give a shit. I'm not going to make you own one. I feel no need to make you do anything you don't want to do.

So why is it, you feel the need to judge me and try and make me live like you? I'm not trying to do that to you, so why must you do it to me?

Wouldn't someone from a "civilized country" be smart enough to just let people live their own lives the way they want to, instead of trying to impose their culture, like some "I know better" piece of shit?

GET A FUCKING CLUE.

I do not want to be like you, and you can NEVER force me to be like you, EVER, so stop trying.

In fact, I go out of my way to be as UNLIKE you as possible. I believe in freedom and letting people live their lives the way they want to, not trying to make other people be like me.

You should be ashamed of yourself. I despise people like you. It's people like you who make the world a shitty place to live.

Please, just mind your own business, worry about your own problems, and leave me the fuck alone.

What I wonder, is if anyone else notices the massive irony of this forum and other atheist forums like Ratskep. It's full of people who are sick of religion and religion being imposed on them. Yet, when it comes to guns, or any other liberal cause they deem is for the "public good" ANY level of authoritarianism is perfectly okay, when it's what they want.

Fucking hypocrites. The lot of you.

[Bella Fortuna]

OK, bye.

[Ian]

[Tero]

Why would you think atheism somehow connects to guns? Life is prescious to us, we only get one.

[Svartalf]

You are completely fucking paranoid, literally to a clinical level.

If you are so paranoid about guns, that you want to impose on other people because of your asinine fears, and if you were in America, you'd be worried about getting shot, that is a clinical level of paranoia. I'm not joking. Seek professional help.

I'm not in America, so I've no need to be paranoid. I also never feel the need to carry a gun, or even own one.
You see, I live in a civilised country where random shootings don't happen.

Who needs a gun when a matchet will do the job?

[Seth]

Why would you think atheism somehow connects to guns? Life is prescious to us, we only get one.

Damned right. Fucking good reason to be prepared to keep someone else from taking it from you don't you think?