British scientists claim to have found proof of alien life

[cronus]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 26690.html

found proof of alien life

A team of British scientists is convinced it has found proof of alien life, after it harvested strange particles from the edge of space.

The scientists sent a balloon 27km into the stratosphere, which came back carrying small biological organisms which they believe can only have originated from space.

Professor Milton Wainwright told The Independent that he was "95 per cent convinced" that the organisms did not originate from earth.

"By all known information that science has, we know that they must be coming in from space," he said. "There is no known mechanism by which these life forms can achieve that height. As far as we can tell from known physics, they must be incoming."

Some of the samples were captured covered with cosmic dust, adding further credence to the idea that they have originated from space.

"The organisms are not usual," said Professor Wainwright, who works at the University of Sheffield’s Department of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology. "If they came from earth, we would expect to see stuff that we find on earth commonly, like pollen."

"We're very, very confident that these are biological entities originating from space," he said, acknowledging that absolutely certainty is hard to achieve in science.

The team believes that the entities are coming from comets, which are big balls of ice shooting through space. The samples were collected during a meteorite shower from a comet. As they hit the earth's atmosphere, the comets melt - ablate, to give it a technical term - releasing the organisms as they break down.

"The particles are very clean," added Prof Wainwright. "They don't have any dust attached to them, which again suggests they're not coming to earth. Similarly, cosmic dust isn't stuck to them, so we think they came from an aquatic environment, and the most obvious aquatic environment in space is a comet.

"They're very unusual beasts, not your normal kind of life from earth."

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[Tyrannical]

If I were a gambling man, I'd bet you could find microbial life in the atmosphere of Jupiter or Saturn.

[cronus]

If I were a gambling man, I'd bet you could find microbial life in the atmosphere of Jupiter or Saturn.

I'd gamble on astronaut piss from the international space station myself.

[Audley Strange]

A bit of a stretch to claim they are from space, a bit like a fish leaping up so high that it gets hit by a bee and when it jumps down back into the ocean the other fish see it and say "Must be aliens... we have no comparable species on Water!"

[rainbow]

More whack from the Journal of Cosmology.
Just because it sounds like a reputable source, doesn't mean it actually is.

Best is:"There is no known mechanism by which these life forms can achieve that height. As far as we can tell from known physics, they must be incoming."
...which could also be written as: "There is no known mechanism by which these life forms can come from space. As far as we can tell from known physics, they must be from Earth."

[Tyrannical]

He scotched the theory that the life forms arrived in the upper atmosphere after being blasted there from a volcano.

"The last volcano was three years ago, and the matter has all been deposited by now," he said.

I don't believe the matter has all been deposited by now. I thought I'd heard before that volcanic particulate matter can stay in the atmosphere much longer than three years. I bet Earth bacteria just live and produce up there normally.

[cronus]

http://phys.org/news/2012-08-bright-arc ... space.html

Although the shuttle is gone its legacy lives on in the upper atmosphere.

[JimC]

"Proof" is a moveable feast...

[Audley Strange]

"Proof" is a moveable feast...

Wonderful!

[Tero]

When our sun blows, some bits of dna will survive and fly out into space.

[cronus]

When our sun blows, some bits of dna will survive and fly out into space.

Ah! A fellow optimist.

[mistermack]

When our sun blows, some bits of dna will survive and fly out into space.

Ah! A fellow optimist.

Our Sun is too small to blow as a supernova. It will expand progressively and incinerate the Earth, so all dna is doomed, apart from that which we move on to areas further out from the Sun.
Probably Mars, and then the moons of the outer planets.

One interesting thing is that his figure of 95% certainty, is roughly the same as the latest ''official'' IPCC claim that CO2 is going to seriously warm the planet.

Two to watch.

[Skepticus]

How dissapointing. The first aliens were s'posed to lurch out of saucer shaped spacecraft and demand to be taken to our leader.

[Skepticus]

More whack from the Journal of Cosmology.
Just because it sounds like a reputable source, doesn't mean it actually is.

Best is:"There is no known mechanism by which these life forms can achieve that height. As far as we can tell from known physics, they must be incoming."
...which could also be written as: "There is no known mechanism by which these life forms can come from space. As far as we can tell from known physics, they must be from Earth."

Good point rainbow. So...

There's no way known they could come from space.
There's no way known they could come from earth.

Ergo: They couldn't come from anywhere.

Theres no way known they could be caused to exist in situ.
They couldn't come form anywhere.

Ergo: They must have always existed there without cause.

There is no way known that natural life could be uncaused.
These beings are uncaused.

Ergo: These beings are not natural.

All forms of life or beings that are not natural, are supernatural.
These beings are not natural

Ergo: They are supernatural beings.

All things that exist without cause are necicary
These supernatural beings exist without cause

Ergo: These supernatural being are necicary.

All necicary supernatural beings are Gods
These are necicary supernatural beings.

Ergo: These supernatural beings are Gods.


Good news everyone:

SCIENCE HAS IRREFUTABLE PROOF OF GODS.

[tattuchu]

Why isn't this all over the news everywhere? If we've discovered alien life, this is huge. HUGE. The biggest discovery in history fercryinoutloud. Anyway, they're probly just tardigrades. Those motherfuckers are everywhere, and can survive anything