Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

User avatar
klr
(%gibber(who=klr, what=Leprageek);)
Posts: 32964
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:25 pm
About me: The money was just resting in my account.
Location: Airstrip Two
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by klr » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:18 pm

From the article:
It is believed that the two dogs were put down on Friday – but last night the MoD said the timing was ‘entirely coincidental’.

A spokesman stressed that the prince did not work with the dogs, which were used to provide extra security at the base.
Well, if that was the case, why drag Prince William into the story at all, except as a means of grabbing attention? :roll:
God has no place within these walls, just like facts have no place within organized religion. - Superintendent Chalmers

It's not up to us to choose which laws we want to obey. If it were, I'd kill everyone who looked at me cock-eyed! - Rex Banner

The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression. - Gary Larson

:mob: :comp: :mob:

User avatar
Tyrannical
Posts: 6468
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:59 am
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:00 pm

No excuse, those dogs deserved retirement benefits at a happy dog farm.

At least the DM has had some nice soldier / dog reunification stories.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.

User avatar
klr
(%gibber(who=klr, what=Leprageek);)
Posts: 32964
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:25 pm
About me: The money was just resting in my account.
Location: Airstrip Two
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by klr » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:57 pm

Ah, the Daily Mail ... always with the human interest angle.

Or in this case, canine interest.
God has no place within these walls, just like facts have no place within organized religion. - Superintendent Chalmers

It's not up to us to choose which laws we want to obey. If it were, I'd kill everyone who looked at me cock-eyed! - Rex Banner

The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression. - Gary Larson

:mob: :comp: :mob:

User avatar
mistermack
Posts: 15093
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 am
About me: Never rong.
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:16 pm

klr wrote:From the article:
It is believed that the two dogs were put down on Friday – but last night the MoD said the timing was ‘entirely coincidental’.

A spokesman stressed that the prince did not work with the dogs, which were used to provide extra security at the base.
Well, if that was the case, why drag Prince William into the story at all, except as a means of grabbing attention? :roll:
The dogs were relevant to the prince being there. The security level has dropped now that he's gone, so the dogs are no longer needed. They were there because he was there, basically.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.

User avatar
Tyrannical
Posts: 6468
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:59 am
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:16 pm

klr wrote:Ah, the Daily Mail ... always with the human interest angle.

Or in this case, canine interest.
The DM does have a fair amount of positive human interest stories every day, usually with far more good pictures than others.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -away.html
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.

User avatar
mistermack
Posts: 15093
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 am
About me: Never rong.
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:08 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
klr wrote:Ah, the Daily Mail ... always with the human interest angle.

Or in this case, canine interest.
The DM does have a fair amount of positive human interest stories every day, usually with far more good pictures than others.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -away.html
Pretty pictures taken by a gamekeeper. How very Daily Mail.
The subtext is that shooting is good, country estates conserve wildlife, and rearing animals just to blast them with shotguns for fun is a good admirable thing.

Anyone can take pictures. It's highly overrated. Especially with the high-tec cameras available today. You can't go wrong.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.

User avatar
klr
(%gibber(who=klr, what=Leprageek);)
Posts: 32964
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:25 pm
About me: The money was just resting in my account.
Location: Airstrip Two
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by klr » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:13 pm

mistermack wrote:
klr wrote:From the article:
It is believed that the two dogs were put down on Friday – but last night the MoD said the timing was ‘entirely coincidental’.

A spokesman stressed that the prince did not work with the dogs, which were used to provide extra security at the base.
Well, if that was the case, why drag Prince William into the story at all, except as a means of grabbing attention? :roll:
The dogs were relevant to the prince being there. The security level has dropped now that he's gone, so the dogs are no longer needed. They were there because he was there, basically.
That's how I understood the headline. But had Prince William not been there in the first place to protect, might the dogs have been put down anyway? In fact, you could argue that by needing special protection, he gave them an extra lease of life. [/spin]
God has no place within these walls, just like facts have no place within organized religion. - Superintendent Chalmers

It's not up to us to choose which laws we want to obey. If it were, I'd kill everyone who looked at me cock-eyed! - Rex Banner

The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression. - Gary Larson

:mob: :comp: :mob:

User avatar
mistermack
Posts: 15093
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 am
About me: Never rong.
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:23 pm

klr wrote: That's how I understood the headline. But had Prince William not been there in the first place to protect, might the dogs have been put down anyway? In fact, you could argue that by needing special protection, he gave them an extra lease of life. [/spin]
Oh yeh, you can look at it that way, and I often do. If I didn't like steak, fewer cows would live. It's true.
I've got nothing against putting dogs down anyway. They're not an endangered species, and they put pressure on species that ARE endangered, by eating all that dog food.

It's the whole royal bollox that I don't like.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.

User avatar
laklak
Posts: 21022
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm
About me: My preferred pronoun is "Massah"
Location: Tannhauser Gate
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by laklak » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:25 pm

Wonder why they couldn't rehome them? Perhaps too aggressive for the suburbs? We once adopted an ex-drug dog from U.S. Customs service. He was a collie/golden retriever mix who worked on the New York/Canada border, a great dog. And he could find your stash in a heartbeat if you misplaced it.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

User avatar
klr
(%gibber(who=klr, what=Leprageek);)
Posts: 32964
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:25 pm
About me: The money was just resting in my account.
Location: Airstrip Two
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by klr » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:26 pm

laklak wrote:Wonder why they couldn't rehome them? Perhaps too aggressive for the suburbs? We once adopted an ex-drug dog from U.S. Customs service. He was a collie/golden retriever mix who worked on the New York/Canada border, a great dog. And he could find your stash in a heartbeat if you misplaced it.
One of them had "behavioral issues", so yes, that was probably a factor.
God has no place within these walls, just like facts have no place within organized religion. - Superintendent Chalmers

It's not up to us to choose which laws we want to obey. If it were, I'd kill everyone who looked at me cock-eyed! - Rex Banner

The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression. - Gary Larson

:mob: :comp: :mob:

User avatar
Cormac
Posts: 6415
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:47 pm
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by Cormac » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:07 am

mistermack wrote:
JimC wrote: A little over the top. He may not have been super pilot, but he would have at least needed to demonstrate competency...
I don't think so. It was their job to keep him there, unless he was too dangerous to let loose. It's great PR to have him flying helicopters and '' saving lives ''.
But anything challenging wouldn't have come his way. It's obvious. What sort of PR would it be, if he crashed a copter, or killed someone that he was supposed to be rescuing? There's no way that they could possibly risk anything like that.
So even if he was proficient, he wouldn't be as useful as any other pilot, because he wouldn't be ALLOWED to do what a normal pilot would.

And when it comes to selection, they probably take the best one percent.
There's only a one percent chance that he would have been in that bracket. He wasn't selected on merit, but on connections.

So you have a lower ability pilot, who cannot be allowed to do anything that requires skill.
Total waste of time and money, except as a PR stunt.

If he died in those circumstances it would be a PR triumph. He'd be the people's martyr. A selfless sacrifice for the welfare of others.
FUCKERPUNKERSHIT!


Wanna buy some pegs Dave, I've got some pegs here...
You're my wife now!

User avatar
Cormac
Posts: 6415
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:47 pm
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by Cormac » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:12 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Cormac wrote:...But William and his family have little or no freedom, and practically zero choice about what they do in life...
He can surely choose to remove himself from the line of succession if the 'gilded cage' is that unpleasant for him :dunno:

To an extent. But, then his name would live on in ignominy down through history. There is considerable pressure on those fellows to stick to their "duty".

To be clear, I am a Republican (Irish) - although I despise what the last 90 years did to Irish Republicanism, and I despise what the IRA became since our Civil War.

But if the majority of British people want a monarchy as head of state, that is fine by me.

My point is about the impact of that responsibility on one person. It is not easy, and does involve an intense workload.
FUCKERPUNKERSHIT!


Wanna buy some pegs Dave, I've got some pegs here...
You're my wife now!

User avatar
cronus
Black Market Analyst
Posts: 18122
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm
About me: Illis quos amo deserviam
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by cronus » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:37 am

They won't tell the press but the prince was really close to those dogs, and he'd been told they'd be taken good care of only hours before the base commander had them put down. He knows men have been risking their lives to keep this self-indulgent toff airborne, and this was revenge.
What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?

User avatar
Tyrannical
Posts: 6468
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:59 am
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:58 am

Maybe the RAF should be put in charge of the prison, welfare, and health system :hehe: Brilliant cost savings once they just put everyone down :zilla:
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.

User avatar
mistermack
Posts: 15093
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 am
About me: Never rong.
Contact:

Re: Two guard dogs that protected Prince William Destroyed

Post by mistermack » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:21 am

Cormac wrote: If he died in those circumstances it would be a PR triumph. He'd be the people's martyr. A selfless sacrifice for the welfare of others.
Probably. But what's the point of another popular DEAD royal? They've already got one of those.
Anyway, if he died through poor piloting, they sympathy would be less. And he'd be sure to take others with him, which wouldn't be so heroic. In fact, they would almost certainly lie, and say that the co-pilot was responsible.

But even if he got some kudos, the palace would get the blame for letting him do it. Which would reflect badly on the surviving royal family, as did the Diana episode.
In any case, William is their big hope for popularity. Charles is a pretty despicable moron, and Harry isn't widely admired, despite all the effort put in.
So they won't take any risks with William.
Scrumple wrote:They won't tell the press but the prince was really close to those dogs, and he'd been told they'd be taken good care of only hours before the base commander had them put down. He knows men have been risking their lives to keep this self-indulgent toff airborne, and this was revenge.
They were taken care of.
Last edited by mistermack on Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], L'Emmerdeur and 29 guests