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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by Bella Fortuna » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:42 pm

mistermack wrote: Actually, there is a funny split in where children draw their values from. Little kids get their accent from the kids that they mix with, not from their parents. But they seem to absorb their religion and often their politics from their parents.
The accent is hugely important for kids. If they were to grow up with a different accent, they are likely to get picked on for the rest of their lives, so it's not surprising that they absorb the accent of the kids that they grow up with, rather than from their parents.
Not true with at least one child of my acquaintance, who has absorbed nothing of the Scots accents with which he's been surrounded his whole life.
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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by HomerJay » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:31 pm

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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:33 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
mistermack wrote: Actually, there is a funny split in where children draw their values from. Little kids get their accent from the kids that they mix with, not from their parents. But they seem to absorb their religion and often their politics from their parents.
The accent is hugely important for kids. If they were to grow up with a different accent, they are likely to get picked on for the rest of their lives, so it's not surprising that they absorb the accent of the kids that they grow up with, rather than from their parents.[/quotUe]
Not true with at least one child of my acquaintance, who has absorbed nothing of the Scots accents with which he's been surrounded his whole life.
Yeah, I don't really talk like where I'm from-- my parents drilled it out of me.

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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:57 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote: Not true with at least one child of my acquaintance, who has absorbed nothing of the Scots accents with which he's been surrounded his whole life.
It's the infant years when you pick up your accent from other kids. Maybe he didn't mix with kids who had much of an accent.

You can lose it. My sister lost her local accent when she went to college, but she was training as a teacher, and came home talking middle Oxford. Maybe girls can change more easily than men.

If you look at immigrants though, you generally find that the kids have the local accent, not the immigrant accent.
But if they are over a certain age when they arrive, they tend to keep a lot of the original accent.
Of course, in a real ghetto, the kids don't get to meet the locals, so they keep the immigrant accent.
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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by rasetsu » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:51 pm

mistermack wrote: I speak from observing others...
That probably explains why the bulk of what you've written sounds like something you just pulled from your ass.

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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by Warren Dew » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:13 pm

mistermack wrote:Are you trying to turn your kids into you?
Who wouldn't want their kids to be perfect?

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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by Svartalf » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:16 pm

mistermack wrote:Maybe not on this forum. But the world in general.
They adopt the religion of their parents, and the political party of their parents.

We become our parents. On average that is. I would not expect ratz to follow that rule to the same extent as others.
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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by JimC » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:07 pm

mistermack wrote:Maybe not on this forum. But the world in general.
They adopt the religion of their parents, and the political party of their parents.

We become our parents. On average that is. I would not expect ratz to follow that rule to the same extent as others.
Are you trying to turn your kids into you?
I did a science degree at Melbourne University.

So did my oldest son (in fact, in the Zoology department, like me)

My youngest son has just started a science degree at Melbourne University...

They are both atheists, and both like women and wine...

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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by klr » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:09 pm

JimC wrote:
mistermack wrote:Maybe not on this forum. But the world in general.
They adopt the religion of their parents, and the political party of their parents.

We become our parents. On average that is. I would not expect ratz to follow that rule to the same extent as others.
Are you trying to turn your kids into you?
I did a science degree at Melbourne University.

So did my oldest son (in fact, in the Zoology department, like me)

My youngest son has just started a science degree at Melbourne University...

They are both atheists, and both like women and wine...

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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by JimC » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:10 pm

They like that too, but it definitely comes third, as it should... :hehe:
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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by klr » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:12 pm

:funny: Can't argue with that.
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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:36 pm

JimC wrote: WHAT HAVE I DONE! :cry:
Don't worry. They'll move on to gin before long.
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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by mistermack » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:48 pm

rasetsu wrote:
mistermack wrote: I speak from observing others...
That probably explains why the bulk of what you've written sounds like something you just pulled from your ass.

:coffee:
Good argument. I can see that you've thought deeply about this.
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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by Svartalf » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:54 pm

Did I mention that my parents started my indoctrination in chretinity as soon as I was able to be told stories?
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Re: Most of us think what our parents told us to think

Post by Tyrannical » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:14 pm

Behavior does have a genetic link, so you shouldn't be surprised that children on average closer to their parents beliefs than a random stranger. I'm not discounting a nurture component, just that there is a genetic component.
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