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Re: What did this man need that he didn't have?

Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:19 pm

Seth wrote:
aspire1670 wrote:
Why don't you post your address so Mr J knows where to go to to give it a bash? Or are you a blowhard?
Why don't you? Or are you a coward too?

If either you or he has the balls you can do your own homework and come find me. Nobody said I have to make it easy for either of you...or anybody else.

However, if you're really serious how about you send me YOUR address and I'll drop by for a chat on the subject sometime?
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Re: What did this man need that he didn't have?

Post by Seth » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:21 pm

mistermack wrote:
Seth wrote:
aspire1670 wrote:
Why don't you post your address so Mr J knows where to go to to give it a bash? Or are you a blowhard?
Why don't you? Or are you a coward too?

If either you or he has the balls you can do your own homework and come find me. Nobody said I have to make it easy for either of you...or anybody else.

However, if you're really serious how about you send me YOUR address and I'll drop by for a chat on the subject sometime?
If Seth starts screaming like a little girl when you arrive, just remember it's a tactical distraction, it's not that he's wetting his knickers.
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Dang! I hate it when my tactical distraction devices squib on me... :nono:
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Re: What did this man need that he didn't have?

Post by klr » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:25 pm

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Why should we not believe them? There's been precious little paramilitary violence during the years since disarmament.
Indeed. Ever stop to think that maybe they got tired of being pursued and hounded and decided to stash their weapons and take a break?

If you don't think there are arms caches all over Ireland, or that the IRA and others can't obtain whatever they want or need in short order you're a fool.
I'm afraid you know Jack Shit about recent Irish history. There was independent verification of the weapons decommissioning:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independen ... missioning

While there are doubtless still isolated caches of weapons lying around somewhere, that's all they are. The paramilitary organisation you insist on referring to as a live entity does not exist any more. Neither do most of the other paramilitary groups on either side, apart from small splinter groups. The actual situation on the ground here does not match your fantasy view.
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Re: What did this man need that he didn't have?

Post by Collector1337 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:27 pm

MrJonno wrote:Airports have armed police/the army at them and have done for a very long time. Possessing a pit bull is the equivalent to waving a gun and you are certainly are risking an armed response

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/ ... e-officers
So, still dodging and not answering my question then?
Possessing a pit bull is the equivalent to waving a gun and you are certainly are risking an armed response
Are you fucking joking? Because if you are not, then you posses a fucking bat shit crazy level of insanity. I literally know paranoid schizophrenics, who when on their meds, are less insane than you.
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Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:40 pm

Collector1337 wrote: Are you fucking joking? Because if you are not, then you posses a fucking bat shit crazy level of insanity. I literally know paranoid schizophrenics, who when on their meds, are less insane than you.
Know a lot of them, do you?

That explains a lot. Although I'm not surprised.
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Post by Cormac » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:41 pm

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Look at him, salivating at the thought of the next child he'll eat, like an atheist in a kindergarten. The epitome of demonic evil.

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Re: What did this man need that he didn't have?

Post by klr » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:45 pm

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Re: What did this man need that he didn't have?

Post by Cormac » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:49 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Cormac wrote:
MrJonno wrote:There has never been a clear divide between military and police, the first police where military and most military work is policing. Anti-terrorism work is as much the army as the police. It's an escalation of force where unarmed police as the normal most common response to the somewhat rarer event of a nuclear tipped ICBM at the other end

There is an absolute distinction between the police and military in Ireland.

I suspect there is also such a divide in the UK.

However, at some points there may be a blurring of the distinction - but only as far as mission is concerned - but the fundamentals of the distinction will still apply.
In Northern Ireland there were (are?) soldiers patrolling the streets for decades, even the current 'police' are armed to the teeth. Sticking someone in a tank a putting a police label on them doesn't turn into the police.

The only real difference between the police and the military is in fire-power whether they are British, Irish or American, what they have on the side of their vehicles is irrelevant

Did I say Northern Ireland?

Ireland is the state to the South of Northern Ireland that officially has an aspiration towards unification (although unofficially, we'd rather it didn't happen just yet).

Northern Ireland is a different kettle of fish, where GB has and does breach its own rules regarding policing and military involvement.

But I specifically said the UK. Northern Ireland is not part of the UK, (it is part of GB).

The police have always been armed in Northern Ireland, and this is because amongst their functions down the decades was to act as a colonial police force - which does have a suppressive and quasi military aspect to it. This is the stark exception that helps the normal scenario of policing on these two islands to stand out.
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Post by Cormac » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:49 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Cormac wrote:
MrJonno wrote:There has never been a clear divide between military and police, the first police where military and most military work is policing. Anti-terrorism work is as much the army as the police. It's an escalation of force where unarmed police as the normal most common response to the somewhat rarer event of a nuclear tipped ICBM at the other end

There is an absolute distinction between the police and military in Ireland.

I suspect there is also such a divide in the UK.

However, at some points there may be a blurring of the distinction - but only as far as mission is concerned - but the fundamentals of the distinction will still apply.
In Northern Ireland there were (are?) soldiers patrolling the streets for decades, even the current 'police' are armed to the teeth. Sticking someone in a tank a putting a police label on them doesn't turn into the police.

The only real difference between the police and the military is in fire-power whether they are British, Irish or American, what they have on the side of their vehicles is irrelevant

Did I say Northern Ireland?

Ireland is the state to the South of Northern Ireland that officially has an aspiration towards unification (although unofficially, we'd rather it didn't happen just yet).

Northern Ireland is a different kettle of fish, where GB has and does breach its own rules regarding policing and military involvement.

But I specifically said the UK. Northern Ireland is not part of the UK, (it is part of GB).

The police have always been armed in Northern Ireland, and this is because amongst their functions down the decades was to act as a colonial police force - which does have a suppressive and quasi military aspect to it. This is the stark exception that helps the normal scenario of policing on these two islands to stand out.
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Re: What did this man need that he didn't have?

Post by Collector1337 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:50 pm

mistermack wrote:
Collector1337 wrote: Are you fucking joking? Because if you are not, then you posses a fucking bat shit crazy level of insanity. I literally know paranoid schizophrenics, who when on their meds, are less insane than you.
Know a lot of them, do you?

That explains a lot. Although I'm not surprised.
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Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:08 pm

Cormac wrote: But I specifically said the UK. Northern Ireland is not part of the UK, (it is part of GB).
Check.
I think you mean that the other way around. It's the UK that consists of GB and Northern Ireland.
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Post by klr » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:10 pm

Maybe it's an alternative Ulster ...

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Post by mistermack » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:20 pm

Collector1337 wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Collector1337 wrote: Are you fucking joking? Because if you are not, then you posses a fucking bat shit crazy level of insanity. I literally know paranoid schizophrenics, who when on their meds, are less insane than you.
Know a lot of them, do you?

That explains a lot. Although I'm not surprised.
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It must be highly infectious.
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Re: What did this man need that he didn't have?

Post by Collector1337 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:29 pm

mistermack wrote:
Collector1337 wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Collector1337 wrote: Are you fucking joking? Because if you are not, then you posses a fucking bat shit crazy level of insanity. I literally know paranoid schizophrenics, who when on their meds, are less insane than you.
Know a lot of them, do you?

That explains a lot. Although I'm not surprised.
Yes. I get paid to know them.
It must be highly infectious.
Obviously, you don't know much about mental disorders.
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Post by Cormac » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:45 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Some dog breeds simply are more violent and dangerous on average than others, and the cause is genetics. It is wrong to say all members of a breed are"too" violent, but statistically as a group they can be.
Environment is a mitigating factor in animal behavior. But separating the learned from the intrinsic behavior of dogs is sort of like the difference between domesticated and trained wild animals. That difference, and one which domesticated animals were bred for is comfortableness and non-aggression towards humans. Certain dog breeds as opposed to most domesticated animals were not bred for these characteristics.

Now I'm sure Seth realizes that in an average environment on average, a yellow lab will be less dangerous than a pit bull. But Seth believes that you shouldn't judge all pit bulls based on a smaller percent of the population, and that good training can improve behavior.
This has been shown to be untrue.

The current thinking is that only a small proportion of a dog's behaviour as regards violence is down to its instincts, and that a great deal of violent behaviour experienced is down to a learned behaviour - and usually the result of either abuse or deliberate training.

Breeding in dogs has tangible results mostly in appearance and strength, and general instincts. A willingness to attack humans and indeed, human children, is not a guaranteed result.

When we look at the cases of dog attacks, and in particular fatalities, there are a number of things we can say:

1. Journalists routinely get the breed wrong - and this results in bull-breeds being unfairly blamed in many cases.
2. The owners have not raised or socialised their dog correctly
3. The owners have abused the dog or trained it to be violent
4. The dogs were unsupervised.

It is still quite rare for a family pet that has a modicum of socialisation and training to actually attack and kill a human being.

Seth is absolutely right.

And, while I'm on, you're far more likely to suffer a dog bit related fatality from an encounter with a labrador than with a pit-bull.
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