What did this man need that he didn't have?

[JimC]

A group of friends who were much slower than him...

That's the old two friends and the bear joke reworked.

Indeed it is...

[Tyrannical]

The proper book?

The gang of dogs reappears and marches in on Bugs menacingly. Bugs grabs a book and threatens to hit them with it in his "last stand". The dogs' eyes open wide when they see the book, and they turn around and race to, and across, the Brooklyn Bridge. The puzzled Bugs looks at the book and sees that it is the then-recent and famous novel, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, which was obviously the inspiration for the cartoon's title.

[mistermack]

For you, yes, absolutely it's a stupid idea because you demonstrate an incapacity to safely possess a gun.

That incapacity is hardly universal...or even widespread.

Completely wrong. And a bit silly, if I may say so.
It's impossible to safely possess a gun. Even without ammunition.

[Collector1337]

Wrong crowd Seth.

It's almost as if people here think that your life isn't more important than a dog's...

As usual, I guess because guns are so evil, we're just supposed to allow ourselves to be attacked by a pack of dogs instead of defending ourselves.

It's funny how such self-proclaimed intelligent and rational people, can be so stupid and irrational.

[Collector1337]

It's impossible to safely possess a gun. Even without ammunition.

Are you completely insane?

Or just run of the mill paranoia?

[MrJonno]

Wrong crowd Seth.

It's almost as if people here think that your life isn't more important than a dog's...

As usual, I guess because guns are so evil, we're just supposed to allow ourselves to be attacked by a pack of dogs instead of defending ourselves.

It's funny how such self-proclaimed intelligent and rational people, can be so stupid and irrational.

Actually Pit bulls are destroyed on sight in the UK (they are illegal as is any dog bred for 'self defence' or the more technical term 'wanker' dog). However if its a choice between Seth and a Pit Bull its going to be a difficult moral dilema

[Cormac]

Wrong crowd Seth.

It's almost as if people here think that your life isn't more important than a dog's...

As usual, I guess because guns are so evil, we're just supposed to allow ourselves to be attacked by a pack of dogs instead of defending ourselves.

It's funny how such self-proclaimed intelligent and rational people, can be so stupid and irrational.

Actually Pit bulls are destroyed on sight in the UK (they are illegal as is any dog bred for 'self defence' or the more technical term 'wanker' dog). However if its a choice between Seth and a Pit Bull its going to be a difficult moral dilema

Such legislation is moronic and need entirely on a false correlation.

[MrJonno]

Such legislation is moronic and need entirely on a false correlation.

You can't shoot moronic dog owners but you can sterilise and make extinct the dogs they like to buy. (no dogs were initially shot, only those whose the owners didnt get sterilised)

Should people who don't misuse X where X can be anything be restricted because enough people do and cause enough damage, absolutely!

[Collector1337]

Such legislation is moronic and need entirely on a false correlation.

You can't shoot moronic dog owners but you can sterilise and make extinct the dogs they like to buy. (no dogs were initially shot, only those whose the owners didnt get sterilised)

Should people who don't misuse X where X can be anything be restricted because enough people do and cause enough damage, absolutely!

You can take your authoritarianism and shove it up your ass.

You also ignorantly and stupidly attribute a violent dog to the specific breed, and not the way in which in was trained and reared.

jonno, it's as if you know nothing about the world. I have dated girls in their early 20s who were more intelligent and had more Earthly experience than you.

Just stop and think about how sad that is for a second.

That is unless you are a teenager. Then maybe you'd have a legitimate excuse.

[MrJonno]

You also ignorantly and stupidly attribute a violent dog to the specific breed, and not the way in which in was trained and reared.

Then I'm in good company, no political party wants to overturn it, neither does any significant pressure group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Dogs_Act_1991

Having a certain breed of dog doesn't mean that dog will necessary attack someone in the same way as having a gun doesn't necessary mean you are going to shoot someone but you seriously are confusing me with someone who gives a shit. Collective responsibility something most people learn at school

The whole subject of the thread is absurd, owning a pit bull is a serious criminal offence in the UK and actually puts you in danger of being shot (its the equivalent of waving a gun around in front of of the police/public)

[Collector1337]

You also ignorantly and stupidly attribute a violent dog to the specific breed, and not the way in which in was trained and reared.

Then I'm in good company, no political party wants to overturn it, neither does any significant pressure group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Dogs_Act_1991

Having a certain breed of dog doesn't mean that dog will necessary attack someone in the same way as having a gun doesn't necessary mean you are going to shoot someone but you seriously are confusing me with someone who gives a shit. Collective responsibility something most people learn at school

The whole subject of the thread is absurd, owning a pit bull is a serious criminal offence in the UK and actually puts you in danger of being shot (its the equivalent of waving a gun around in front of of the police/public)

I think that just to spite you, I'm should go buy a pitbull, a really nice, cute, and cuddly one.

Then, I should take a trip to the UK and bring my dog with me since you can air travel with pets pretty easily these days.

And then, see if your shitty government will kill my dog out of their paranoid fears when I land.

That fact that you are a "criminal" in the UK for merely the kind of dog you own, goes to show how seriously fucked up and shitty the UK is.

Although, being an American, I doubt I would be charged with any crime and I would just be sent on my way. The real question is, will your fucked up country murder my dog because of their paranoid fears.

[MrJonno]

The real question is, will your fucked up country murder my dog because of their paranoid fears.

Start wandering around with a pit bull at an airport and the safety of your dog is unlikely to be your number one priority, the police (army) there do carry sub-machine guns

There are a few countries which have a restriction on breeds (from how they must be looked after to outright ban)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breed-specific_legislation

The most interesting bit in the context of this thread is (and you really couldnt make it up)

Marine Corps has banned "large dog breeds with a predisposition toward aggressive or dangerous behavior,"[2] including pit bull-type dogs (among other breeds) in on-base housing and privatized housing, as have a number of United States Army,U.S. Air Force and Navy installations

[Collector1337]

The real question is, will your fucked up country murder my dog because of their paranoid fears.

Start wandering around with a pit bull at an airport

Umm, you have to have your pet in a cage or carrier type thing...

I wouldn't be walking it anywhere inside an airport...

As usual. You know nothing.

and the safety of your dog is unlikely to be your number one priority,

Are you saying that I will be shot on site merely for having a dog? Are you fucking shitting me?

the police (army) there do carry sub-machine guns

Whoa whoa whoa, hold on a second.

The police and the army are the same thing? Again, are you shitting me? It is very dangerous to confuse police work with military work. Are you saying that your country actually does this?

Do you even know what a sub-machine gun is?

There are a few countries which have a restriction on breeds (from how they must be looked after to outright ban)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breed-specific_legislation

The most interesting bit in the context of this thread is (and you really couldnt make it up)

Marine Corps has banned "large dog breeds with a predisposition toward aggressive or dangerous behavior,"[2] including pit bull-type dogs (among other breeds) in on-base housing and privatized housing, as have a number of United States Army,U.S. Air Force and Navy installations

Why is it that I care about military regs?

[MrJonno]

The police and the army are the same thing? Again, are you shitting me? It is very dangerous to confuse police work with military work. Are you saying that your country actually does this?

This comes from someone who lives in country where the police have tanks!

Whether you use the army or 'police' whose sole purpose is to shoot people is pretty unimportant. I can guarantee if you steal someone luggage in front of an armed policeman at Heathrow airport they won't arrest you , they will probably call someone else to do so but there job is to shoot people not to get involved in minor crimes.

There is obvious merging of police and military work, what do you think most the work most Western armies do these days?. It's hardly fighting other armies its basically police work with heavy weapons.

Check out the concept of paramilitary groups
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramilitary

[Seth]

Given that it is much more likely that I'll happen upon a house fire than a mad-dog attack, I should probably carry a fire extinguisher around with me. But then, I live near a lot of canals and someone might fall in. I'll carry a life-ring and rope. Damn it, there are a also a lot of a) cats and b) trees. Ladder, that's the ticket. In fact,there are so many potential problems, all of them much more likely than a gun-resolvable mad-dog attack, that I think I'm going to have to buy a van to carry all my gear around in.

Or accept the consequences of your laziness.

I used to carry around about 400 pounds of rescue gear in my 4wd when venturing forth into the hinterlands. Everything from fire extinguishers to major trauma kits to tools to technical climbing gear to wildfire equipment and survival supplies. I still do. And the reason that I carry all that stuff in my vehicle is that at one time or another in my life I've needed each and every one of those items to save or protect a life (not necessarily my own) and not had it, and in each and every case after adding it to my kit, I've needed it at least once or twice more.

I prefer to be prepared. You don't. That's perfectly fine by me. But why should YOU get a vote on what I choose to lug around by way of safety gear?