Yemen and the War on Terrorism

[Coito ergo sum]

A pair of suspected U.S. drone strikes killed four al Qaeda militants in Yemen as the United States maintained a heightened security alert in the country and urged all Americans to leave immediately.
Security sources told CNN about the strikes but didn't offer additional details. A Yemeni official said four drone strikes have been carried out in the past 10 days.
None of those killed on Tuesday were among the 25 names on the country's most-wanted list, security officials said.
It is unclear whether the strikes were related to the added security alert in the country after U.S. officials intercepted a message from al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri to operatives in Yemen telling them to "do something." The message was sent to Nasir al-Wuhayshi, the leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the terror group's Yemeni affiliate. U.S. intelligence believes al-Wuhayshi has recently been appointed the overall terror organization's No. 2 leader.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/05/world/yem ... index.html

[Cormac]

A pair of suspected U.S. drone strikes killed four al Qaeda militants in Yemen as the United States maintained a heightened security alert in the country and urged all Americans to leave immediately.
Security sources told CNN about the strikes but didn't offer additional details. A Yemeni official said four drone strikes have been carried out in the past 10 days.
None of those killed on Tuesday were among the 25 names on the country's most-wanted list, security officials said.
It is unclear whether the strikes were related to the added security alert in the country after U.S. officials intercepted a message from al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri to operatives in Yemen telling them to "do something." The message was sent to Nasir al-Wuhayshi, the leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the terror group's Yemeni affiliate. U.S. intelligence believes al-Wuhayshi has recently been appointed the overall terror organization's No. 2 leader.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/05/world/yem ... index.html

... and they were known to be Al Qaeda Militants how?

... and they were known to be actively engaged in a terroristic operation how?


I'm waiting to hear the follow up, when we discover that it was a wedding that was hit.

Drone attacks - executing the uncharged, untried, and unsentenced for you wholesale.

[laklak]

But but but Al Qaeda is finished, Dear Leader told us! Dear Leader would never, ever lie. Dear Leader loves us and we love Dear Leader!

This is obviously a Republican false flag operation. They'll start World War III just to avoid giving food to dying babies and getting justice for Little Trayvon.

[Coito ergo sum]

A pair of suspected U.S. drone strikes killed four al Qaeda militants in Yemen as the United States maintained a heightened security alert in the country and urged all Americans to leave immediately.
Security sources told CNN about the strikes but didn't offer additional details. A Yemeni official said four drone strikes have been carried out in the past 10 days.
None of those killed on Tuesday were among the 25 names on the country's most-wanted list, security officials said.
It is unclear whether the strikes were related to the added security alert in the country after U.S. officials intercepted a message from al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri to operatives in Yemen telling them to "do something." The message was sent to Nasir al-Wuhayshi, the leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the terror group's Yemeni affiliate. U.S. intelligence believes al-Wuhayshi has recently been appointed the overall terror organization's No. 2 leader.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/05/world/yem ... index.html

... and they were known to be Al Qaeda Militants how?

The State Department and/or the Administration said so, and the good guys are in power now.

... and they were known to be actively engaged in a terroristic operation how?

See above.

I'm waiting to hear the follow up, when we discover that it was a wedding that was hit.

Drone attacks - executing the uncharged, untried, and unsentenced for you wholesale.

There is a difference between summary executions of unindicted suspects, as opposed to capturing the suspect and holding them indefinitely. One is much worse than the other.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

[Audley Strange]

They will find and exterminate any Jedi rebels that threaten the security of the Empire.

[piscator]

This.

Actionable Intelligence. Zap.

[Cormac]

A pair of suspected U.S. drone strikes killed four al Qaeda militants in Yemen as the United States maintained a heightened security alert in the country and urged all Americans to leave immediately.
Security sources told CNN about the strikes but didn't offer additional details. A Yemeni official said four drone strikes have been carried out in the past 10 days.
None of those killed on Tuesday were among the 25 names on the country's most-wanted list, security officials said.
It is unclear whether the strikes were related to the added security alert in the country after U.S. officials intercepted a message from al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri to operatives in Yemen telling them to "do something." The message was sent to Nasir al-Wuhayshi, the leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the terror group's Yemeni affiliate. U.S. intelligence believes al-Wuhayshi has recently been appointed the overall terror organization's No. 2 leader.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/05/world/yem ... index.html

... and they were known to be Al Qaeda Militants how?

The State Department and/or the Administration said so, and the good guys are in power now.

... and they were known to be actively engaged in a terroristic operation how?

See above.

I'm waiting to hear the follow up, when we discover that it was a wedding that was hit.

Drone attacks - executing the uncharged, untried, and unsentenced for you wholesale.

There is a difference between summary executions of unindicted suspects, as opposed to capturing the suspect and holding them indefinitely. One is much worse than the other.

They are each morally and ethically despicable - but at least with the latter you don't kill every innocent bystander too - and if you've a mistaken identity, the collateral damage is 1, and not 60.

[piscator]

A pair of suspected U.S. drone strikes killed four al Qaeda militants in Yemen as the United States maintained a heightened security alert in the country and urged all Americans to leave immediately.
Security sources told CNN about the strikes but didn't offer additional details. A Yemeni official said four drone strikes have been carried out in the past 10 days.
None of those killed on Tuesday were among the 25 names on the country's most-wanted list, security officials said.
It is unclear whether the strikes were related to the added security alert in the country after U.S. officials intercepted a message from al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri to operatives in Yemen telling them to "do something." The message was sent to Nasir al-Wuhayshi, the leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the terror group's Yemeni affiliate. U.S. intelligence believes al-Wuhayshi has recently been appointed the overall terror organization's No. 2 leader.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/05/world/yem ... index.html

... and they were known to be Al Qaeda Militants how?

The State Department and/or the Administration said so, and the good guys are in power now.

... and they were known to be actively engaged in a terroristic operation how?

See above.

I'm waiting to hear the follow up, when we discover that it was a wedding that was hit.

Drone attacks - executing the uncharged, untried, and unsentenced for you wholesale.

There is a difference between summary executions of unindicted suspects, as opposed to capturing the suspect and holding them indefinitely. One is much worse than the other.

They are each morally and ethically despicable - but at least with the latter you don't kill every innocent bystander too - and if you've a mistaken identity, the collateral damage is 1, and not 60.

What if you fly a loaded passenger airliner into a NYC skyscraper during business hours, twice?

[Cormac]

What if you fly a loaded passenger airliner into a NYC skyscraper during business hours, twice?

Who is "you"?

This is the problem. Those crimes were horrendous, and clearly, I would want to see anyone involved brought to justice.

But this doesn't justify an outright assault on human rights, it doesn't justify indiscriminate killing, and it doesn't justify targeting people who may or may not have some involvement in the so-called Al-Qaeda.

By asking the question you asked, you're drawing a moral equivalence between the actions of the USA and the actions of those mass murders at 9-11. ("They did it, so why can't we").

[piscator]

What if you fly a loaded passenger airliner into a NYC skyscraper during business hours, twice?

But this doesn't justify an outright assault on human rights, it doesn't justify indiscriminate killing, and it doesn't justify targeting people who may or may not have some involvement in the so-called Al-Qaeda.

Yeah it does. Same way it justified the bombings of Dresden and Tokyo.
You may be insulated enough not think of it as war, but that doesn't mean squat. It is war. And war is immoral and unfair.

[Audley Strange]

It's not a War. It is a superpower using it's military and position as top dog to assassinate ideological criminals in countries they don't have extradition treaties with. I don't see much difference between this and Israeli intelligence planting a bomb in the vehicle of a PLO leader (remember them?) or the British bumping off some prominent republican with a fetish for semtex. Now AFAIK such things are business as usual for many countries, so I have no issue with the behaviour. However it is supposed to be clandestine.

I guess drone strikes are aesthetically a bit too brash and emotionless for most folks.

[Coito ergo sum]

There is a difference between summary executions of unindicted suspects, as opposed to capturing the suspect and holding them indefinitely. One is much worse than the other.

They are each morally and ethically despicable - but at least with the latter you don't kill every innocent bystander too - and if you've a mistaken identity, the collateral damage is 1, and not 60.[/quote]

Agreed.

[MiM]

Cannot refrain from thinking about how conveniently this huge threat rose, just when the agencies needed to justify their newly found out surveillance network. Wouldn't it be doubly convenient if a drone attack would wipe out the threat, together with all the evidence for it?

Just askin

[Coito ergo sum]

The Obama Administration's NSA, CIA and Department of State would never do that.