Derek Black Renounces White Nationalism

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Derek Black Renounces White Nationalism

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:54 pm

Activist Son of Key Racist Leader Renounces White Nationalism

Derek Black, son of the former Alabama Klan leader who now runs the largest racist Web forum in the world, has renounced white nationalism, saying that he has been through “a gradual awakening process” and apologizing for his past activism.

In an E-mail (pdf) to the editor of this blog earlier this week, Black, 24, wrote that he had come to see the arguments of white nationalism as “principally flawed,” adding that he had realized that American society is marked by an “overwhelming disparity between white power and that of everyone else” and that white nationalism was really about “an entrenched desire to preserve white power at the expense of others.”

“Advocating for white nationalism means that we are opposed to minority attempts to elevate themselves to a position equal to our own,” wrote Black, who recently finished his third year at the elite New College of Florida. “It is an advocacy that I cannot support, having grown past my bubble, talked to the people I affected, read more widely, and realized the necessary impact my actions had on people I never wanted to harm.”

It was a remarkable statement for Black, whose father, Don Black, once served time in prison for plotting a racist invasion of a small Caribbean nation and founded and still runs Stormfront, a white supremacist Web forum. The younger Black was raised in the racist movement, had by age 12 created a racist children’s page on his father’s website, and until recently hosted a radio show featuring racist guests.

But it was also the latest step in a fairly clear evolution.
Already, at the tender age of 9, Derek Black was attending racist events like this Nov. 7, 1998, gathering in Jackson, Miss., of the white nationalist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), a group that has described black people as a “retrograde species of humanity.” He is pictured here with then-Mississippi Gov. Kirk Fordice, one of few politicians who was then still willing to be seen at CCC events.

Last November, Derek Black posted a statement on a students-only forum at his college in which he explicitly said he was not a white supremacist, a neo-Nazi or a Klansman, and revealing that he had some unexpected views, such as support for same-sex marriage, environmental regulation, and legal abortion. But he also said in the statement, which was made public on this blog in December, that he was not renouncing white nationalism and did not see it as incompatible with his other viewsDerek Black, son of the former Alabama Klan leader who now runs the largest racist Web forum in the world, has renounced white nationalism, saying that he has been through “a gradual awakening process” and apologizing for his past activism.


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Re: Derek Black Renounces White Nationalism

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:03 pm

I can't believe he'd give up all that racism has going for it these days.


Good for him though, seriously, bad luck getting the dad he did.

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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:26 pm

Damn, I'm sure I could have talked him out of it. Stormfront has it's flaws but the basis for White Nationalism is still true. I had better investigate this....
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Re: Derek Black Renounces White Nationalism

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:34 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Damn, I'm sure I could have talked him out of it. Stormfront has it's flaws but the basis for White Nationalism is still true. I had better investigate this....
Go on then, write him a letter,
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:41 pm

Ummm, I'm not saying any more about my involvement :{D But words will be said, rest assured.
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Post by Collector1337 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:42 pm

Ironic last name for a White supremacist.
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Re: Derek Black Renounces White Nationalism

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:44 pm

Collector1337 wrote:Ironic last name for a White supremacist.
It was so tempting to title the thread "Black Renounces White Nationalism". :hehe:

But I thought I'd at least give it a serious start.
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:55 pm

“Advocating for white nationalism means that we are opposed to minority attempts to elevate themselves to a position equal to our own,” wrote Black
Minorities are free not to emigrate to the US just as Blacks are free to immigrate back to Africa. Couloreds come to our countries for one reason, Whites can build what they never can.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:58 pm

That's pretty shallow Tyrannical.

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Re: Derek Black Renounces White Nationalism

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:59 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
“Advocating for white nationalism means that we are opposed to minority attempts to elevate themselves to a position equal to our own,” wrote Black
Minorities are free not to emigrate to the US just as Blacks are free to immigrate back to Africa. Couloreds come to our countries for one reason, Whites can build what they never can.
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Asserted without evidence.

Dismissed the same way.
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Post by Cormac » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:01 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
“Advocating for white nationalism means that we are opposed to minority attempts to elevate themselves to a position equal to our own,” wrote Black
Minorities are free not to emigrate to the US just as Blacks are free to immigrate back to Africa. Couloreds come to our countries for one reason, Whites can build what they never can.

What a crock of bullshit.

Your assertions are so blatantly wrong that sometimes I think you're playing a role for the purpose of a very long and extended troll.

If so - meh.
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:01 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:That's pretty shallow Tyrannical.
How was that shallow? I thought it was pretty accurate.
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:17 pm

Oh, and if I have to get my Stormfront news through Rationalia it should tell you something. I don't check it out as often as I should :{D
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:18 pm

If I was god for the day, you'd wake up black, Tyr. :tea:
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:22 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:If I was god for the day, you'd wake up black, Tyr. :tea:
Race is far more than skin deep.
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