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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Warren Dew » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:47 am

Seth wrote:
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Coito ergo sum wrote:The prosecution just asked the jury to use their hearts..... seriously?

"I don't have any charts or six foot long time-lines...just use your common sense, and your hearts...."

Bwahahahahahahahahahhaha!

Translation --- I won't bore you with the evidence -- just feel in your heart that the man is guilty...

...and he's referring to Martin as a "child."

Prosecutors.... scary bunch, man. Scary bunch.
Give 'em a break, they are desperately trying to avoid a Watts-like burndown of the entire city.
They could have done that just by sticking with the original decision not to prosecute.
Yeah, but the Obama administration was evidently pressuring them to make an arrest, so I guess we can blame Obama for the riots that are all but inevitable.
If there are riots, I agree Obama is the person to blame.

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Post by Seth » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:48 am

Tero wrote:So how come you could not say fuck on tv till the 1980s? Where is the FCC in the constitution?
The rationale for TV censorship was that the airwaves belonged to the public and the broadcasters were only licensed to use them at the whims and caprices of the FCC, which controls that use. It's just like the printing press, except that the airwaves were the government's "printing press" so they got to dictate what was said on them.

That ended when the government started SELLING blocks of frequencies to private entities, thereby making those transmission frequencies private property (private printing presses), which is why you can say "fuck" and watch people fucking on satellite channels and wire-line cable systems. The media (airwaves and cables) don't belong to the government so it can't censor the content.
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Post by Jason » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:49 am

Seth wrote:the airwaves were the government's "printing press" so they got to dictate what was said on them.
Teh Marxism!!

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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Gallstones » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:01 pm

State Attorney Angela Corey Fires IT Director Who Raised Concerns In Trayvon Martin Case


July 13, 2013
State Attorney Angela Corey fired her office’s information technology director Friday after he testified last month about being concerned prosecutors did not turn over information to George Zimmerman’s defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

On the same day attorneys finished their closing arguments in that nationally watched trial, a state attorney investigator went to Ben Kruidbos’ home about 7:30 a.m. to hand-deliver a letter stating Kruidbos “can never again be trusted to step foot in this office.”
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Warren Dew » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:55 am

Gallstones wrote:State Attorney Angela Corey Fires IT Director Who Raised Concerns In Trayvon Martin Case

July 13, 2013
State Attorney Angela Corey fired her office’s information technology director Friday after he testified last month about being concerned prosecutors did not turn over information to George Zimmerman’s defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

On the same day attorneys finished their closing arguments in that nationally watched trial, a state attorney investigator went to Ben Kruidbos’ home about 7:30 a.m. to hand-deliver a letter stating Kruidbos “can never again be trusted to step foot in this office.”
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Hey, all she wants is for prosecutors to be able to unjustly convict whoever they want. Is that too much to ask for a power grubbing politician?

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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Daedalus » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:58 am

Warren Dew wrote:
Gallstones wrote:State Attorney Angela Corey Fires IT Director Who Raised Concerns In Trayvon Martin Case

July 13, 2013
State Attorney Angela Corey fired her office’s information technology director Friday after he testified last month about being concerned prosecutors did not turn over information to George Zimmerman’s defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

On the same day attorneys finished their closing arguments in that nationally watched trial, a state attorney investigator went to Ben Kruidbos’ home about 7:30 a.m. to hand-deliver a letter stating Kruidbos “can never again be trusted to step foot in this office.”
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Hey, all she wants is for prosecutors to be able to unjustly convict whoever they want. Is that too much to ask for a power grubbing politician?
Heck no, and since they're already starting to put pressure on courts to decide who gets an organ transplant, they can now ironically fulfill the "death panel" nonsense they cried about for years.

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Post by Daedalus » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:21 am

Warren Dew wrote:George Zimmerman found not guilty
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... y/2514163/
Hmmm, I would have expected manslaughter. I wonder if FL's nutty sentencing and lack of parole played a role in the jury avoiding that?
In any case, civil lawsuit and a life of hiding, here you come George!


I'm just thrilled that I can turn on a news network without "gavel to gavel" coverage of an overblown local news bit.
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Post by laklak » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:28 am

Acquittal. The correct decision, IMO. The jury was not swayed by the political pressure or threats of violence. Respect. No riots yet, but it's only 10:21 PM Saturday night, there's still plenty of time to get liquored up and pissed off. But I'm well armed, locked and loaded, doors locked, alarms on, dogs hungry.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Warren Dew » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:28 am

Daedalus wrote:Hmmm, I would have expected manslaughter. I wonder if FL's nutty sentencing and lack of parole played a role in the jury avoiding that?
I doubt it. I expect what drove the verdict was that it was a clear cut case of self defense on the part of Zimmerman.

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Post by FBM » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:29 am

Like I've maintained all along, only one person alive knows for sure what happened that night.
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Warren Dew wrote:
Daedalus wrote:Hmmm, I would have expected manslaughter. I wonder if FL's nutty sentencing and lack of parole played a role in the jury avoiding that?
I doubt it. I expect what drove the verdict was that it was a clear cut case of self defense on the part of Zimmerman.
Could be, I don't know, and guess I won't unless the jury starts talking.

I wouldn't be shocked either way.
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Post by FBM » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:30 am

laklak wrote:Acquittal. The correct decision, IMO. The jury was not swayed by the political pressure or threats of violence. Respect. No riots yet, but it's only 10:21 PM Saturday night, there's still plenty of time to get liquored up and pissed off. But I'm well armed, locked and loaded, doors locked, alarms on, dogs hungry.
I suppose I could lock my windows. There may be a pissed off Korean...nah. Maybe not.
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Post by laklak » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:40 am

Wouldn't do you any good. Even a Korean ninja can get through a locked window.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by FBM » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:41 am

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