NHS: The best reason to dump Obamacare!

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Post by Seth » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:26 am

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Rum wrote:Personal and family experience? Saved my life, my father's and mother's lives, the life of my father in law and my daughter.

The NHS is awesome.
In comparison to other places, it sure is. Again it might be a bit shit from time to time, but it's still one of the best things our countries have invented.
No it's not. It's what is now eroding, and what inevitably will destroy your nation and economy. It's slow national suicide. There is simply no way around the math.
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Re: NHS: The best reason to dump Obamacare!

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Tero wrote:So what's the problem Seth? You are not going to use Obamacare, you were going to pay cash. And you dot live in the UK. Problem solved.
The problem is that the socialist fuckwits over here take the fuckwitted socialist ideas from over there and try to implement the same economy-destroying fuckwitted system the others are suffering under because they think it's "fair" to everyone to make everyone equally miserable and sick.

Fuck them.
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Post by Jason » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:29 am

Apparently Seth likes comparing similar countries when it favours his point of view (Canada and the US per gun control), but decides he needs to skip across the pond when it doesn't (Canada and the US per healthcare).

Do try harder Seth. This is just.. hamster farts.

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Post by Audley Strange » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:32 am

Seth wrote: No it's not, it's evil.
I think you are mistaking the NHS for the Evil Health Services, which iirc was touted as an alternative in the mid-forties, however that involved occult magic and the hiring of supernatural immigrant doctors from the realm of Despair.

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FBM wrote:Before Obamacare, I couldn't get health insurance no matter how much money I was willing to pay. Now I can. I'm sold. Not saying it's perfect, but an improvement over the system that drove me to bankruptcy over a horse wreck and complications.
Why? Because you had an expensive pre-existing condition that means that "insuring" you will inevitably cost the company more money that it stands to make from your premiums?

I'm in the same boat. I can't get medical insurance and don't even WANT it or need it, but now they are trying to force me to buy it so that my premiums will go to paying for YOUR expensive medical care.

Fuck that. I will NOT pay a dime to the government for Obamacare under any circumstances.

I'm not responsible for your medical problems and I do not accept financial liability for them. Sorry, but that's just how it is. You get to live your life...and then die, and I get to live my life...and then die. You have no right to demand that I prolong your life at my expense. I need all that money to provide for my own medical care. You can't have it.

Sucks to be you perhaps, but we've all got our own crosses to bear, so you bear yours and I'll bear mine.
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Post by Seth » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:35 am

Făkünamę wrote:Apparently Seth likes comparing similar countries when it favours his point of view (Canada and the US per gun control), but decides he needs to skip across the pond when it doesn't (Canada and the US per healthcare).

Do try harder Seth. This is just.. hamster farts.
Hmm? I use the UK all the time as an example of fuckwitted firearms policy. Many of the fuckwitted policies Obama likes come from fuckwits like Brits and other Marxist useful idiots.

Do I detect a hint of ginger?
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Re: NHS: The best reason to dump Obamacare!

Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:35 am

Seth wrote:
Rum wrote:Personal and family experience? Saved my life, my father's and mother's lives, the life of my father in law and my daughter.


At what cost to others and society? Sorry, but none of your relatives has a right to medical care that is provided by placing others into involuntary servitude.

Everybody dies. Everybody. Some sooner than others. That's life, get used to it.
UHC is what civilised societies choose. That's life. Get used to it.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:38 am

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Audley Strange wrote:
Rum wrote:Personal and family experience? Saved my life, my father's and mother's lives, the life of my father in law and my daughter.

The NHS is awesome.
In comparison to other places, it sure is. Again it might be a bit shit from time to time, but it's still one of the best things our countries have invented.
No it's not. It's what is now eroding, and what inevitably will destroy your nation and economy. It's slow national suicide. There is simply no way around the math.
The problem is, you don't understand the math. I've pointed out a million fucking times to you that a sick population is an unproductive population. The figures normally run in the billions for advanced economies. The US would be greater, as it has a large population. But you never grasp this point. You genuinely don't know how to relate a sick population to lower productivity. It's a mystery to your simplistic libertarian view of the world.
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edit (again): Bugger. Edited out the wrong comment, and I can't remember what it was. I'm sure it was a zinger.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:40 am

Seth wrote:
Tero wrote:So what's the problem Seth? You are not going to use Obamacare, you were going to pay cash. And you dot live in the UK. Problem solved.
The problem is that the socialist fuckwits over here take the fuckwitted socialist ideas from over there and try to implement the same economy-destroying fuckwitted system the others are suffering under because they think it's "fair" to everyone to make everyone equally miserable and sick.

Fuck them.
teh MARXISTS!!
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Post by Jason » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:41 am

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Re: NHS: The best reason to dump Obamacare!

Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:42 am

Seth wrote:
FBM wrote:Before Obamacare, I couldn't get health insurance no matter how much money I was willing to pay. Now I can. I'm sold. Not saying it's perfect, but an improvement over the system that drove me to bankruptcy over a horse wreck and complications.
Why? Because you had an expensive pre-existing condition that means that "insuring" you will inevitably cost the company more money that it stands to make from your premiums?

I'm in the same boat. I can't get medical insurance and don't even WANT it or need it, but now they are trying to force me to buy it so that my premiums will go to paying for YOUR expensive medical care.

Fuck that. I will NOT pay a dime to the government for Obamacare under any circumstances.

I'm not responsible for your medical problems and I do not accept financial liability for them. Sorry, but that's just how it is. You get to live your life...and then die, and I get to live my life...and then die. You have no right to demand that I prolong your life at my expense.
And you have no right to live in a civilised society, being such a selfish git.
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Re: NHS: The best reason to dump Obamacare!

Post by Seth » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:42 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Tero wrote:So what's the problem Seth? You are not going to use Obamacare, you were going to pay cash. And you dot live in the UK. Problem solved.
The problem is teh Marxists.
Yup.
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