stromboli wrote:http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 89769.html
There are no words.........A paedophile priest told a distraught seven-year-old boy that he could get his dead grandfather into heaven if he performed a sex act on him, a court has heard.
Belfast Crown Court heard that the boy was quite distressed about his grandfather being in purgatory but that 55-year-old James Martin Donaghy told the child "he could get him into haven if he helped him" and performed a sex act.
Last month just before his trial was due to begin Donaghy, originally from Lady Wallace Drive in Lisburn but now languishing in Magilligan prison, pleaded guilty to four charges of indecently assaulting the boy and one of common assault against the schoolboy on dates between January and May 1989.
Following a lengthy trial at the end of 2011, Donaghy was convicted of a total of 17 sex offences including indecent assault and committing acts of gross indecency against all three victims.
Those charges all happened on various dates between 1983 and 2000.
In relation to the latest series of offences, prosecuting QC Ken McMahon said the boy was being trained by Donaghy for his upcoming first confession and communion when the abuse began.
After one offence the court heard that "the defendant said that this was to get his grandfather into heaven and that if he told anyone it would not work," said the lawyer.
After one offence the court heard that "the defendant said that this was to get his grandfather into heaven and that if he told anyone it would not work," said the lawyer.
Mr McMahon said that a few days later, the boy went to confession as he did not feel right about what had happened but that when he went into the confessional box, he discovered Donaghy on the other side of the partition.
The abuse came to light in 2010 when Donaghy's victim, his fourth, first told his wife and then the church who in turn contacted the police.
Arrested and interviewed Donaghy denied the allegations, claiming he did not even remember the boy.
Mr McMahon said it was correct that this latest case could have been dealt with at the same time as Donaghy's previous offences but that the legal process just took a little longer.
He added however that given the fact Donaghy knew he was under suspicion for them, he could have confessed his crimes earlier but that his guilty pleas had come as a huge relief to this now 31-year-old victim.
Defence QC Eugene Grant told the court that despite the latest series of sex offences, there were testimonials before the court which evidenced how Donaghy had, as priest, given much appreciated pastoral care to many parishioners and families.
He submitted that his guilty pleas, unlike the previous case when he fought it to the end, had been a "seismic event" in Donaghy's attitude, describing it as a "road to Damascus" moment which would have a positive impact his future rehabilitation.
Adjourning passing sentence until Friday, His Honour Judge Kinney remanded Donaghy back into custody, telling the court he wanted to reflect on the papers and evidence before him.
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There was a very good BBC documentary recently about child abuse in the Catholic Church. It covered the big picture, but focused on one school for the deaf in the US. There were quite a few stories along the above lines.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02x9z7g
Look for it on your local BBC ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02x9z7g
Look for it on your local BBC ...
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Re: I will not shoot the next priest I see...
There is no rehabilitation for a person whose sexuality is oriented to children.
To suggest that there is is to suggest that a straight person could be rehabilitated out of being straight.
Paedophiles don't just decide to rape a child the way a burglar decides to rob a house.
Perhaps there can be some success in getting paedophiles to suppress their urges, but they can't be "cured".
(Or so I read. Maybe I'm wrong).
To suggest that there is is to suggest that a straight person could be rehabilitated out of being straight.
Paedophiles don't just decide to rape a child the way a burglar decides to rob a house.
Perhaps there can be some success in getting paedophiles to suppress their urges, but they can't be "cured".
(Or so I read. Maybe I'm wrong).
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Okay, so I *will* shoot the next priest I see, for the safety of the children.
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Paedophilia is not quite the same as sexuality, I don't think. It's more like a mental illness. It can theoretically be treated and controlled in most cases.Cormac wrote:There is no rehabilitation for a person whose sexuality is oriented to children.
To suggest that there is is to suggest that a straight person could be rehabilitated out of being straight.
Paedophiles don't just decide to rape a child the way a burglar decides to rob a house.
Perhaps there can be some success in getting paedophiles to suppress their urges, but they can't be "cured".
(Or so I read. Maybe I'm wrong).
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And the fact that only about 1 percent (4000 verified cases) of the 400,000 Catholic priests in service are involved in sexual abuse doesn't bother you at all?Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Okay, so I *will* shoot the next priest I see, for the safety of the children.
I think your post needs to be referred to the authorities because you have made a terroristic threat.
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Ayup. I too know that Gawdzilla meant every word he said, and even I'll believe him to be serious if his next post here affirms that he is serious.Seth wrote:And the fact that only about 1 percent (4000 verified cases) of the 400,000 Catholic priests in service are involved in sexual abuse doesn't bother you at all?Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Okay, so I *will* shoot the next priest I see, for the safety of the children.
I think your post needs to be referred to the authorities because you have made a terroristic threat.
I have never put anyone on ignore ever - Not only here, but anywhere else - but you are getting close to becoming the first one. Your hysterical screeching is getting too tedious to continue to listen to. You articulate your position reasonably well at times, albeit too often from mistaken premisses, but for months now your fulminations are only repetitions of what you have already said before.
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Priests make terrorist threats all the time. Only it's a post-mortem terror which they fill people up with. Gawdzilla killing one is poetic justice 

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And anyone can report that to the authorities all they want. Unlike Texan police Irish Gardaí won't incarcerate me for a joke made on the webz. Not because they're more competent, mind you, they just couldn't be bothered 

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and you might bribe them with a couple round of pints at the local.
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Re: I will not shoot the next priest I see...
I might even drink with some of them all the time and be friends with one of their daughters 

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Anyway, the point is moot.
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Why shoot the priest when you can whack him with the shovel that will serve to dispose of the remains?
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Because Truth, Justice and the American Wayyyyyyyy demand I shoot the fucker, ya moron.Svartalf wrote:Why shoot the priest when you can whack him with the shovel that will serve to dispose of the remains?

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I thought they demanded you kill him with excessive applications of mom and apple pie.
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