UK bars American bloggers from entering

[Rum]

The point stands that people appear to be arbitrarily banned form entering the USA for relatively minor things.Drug busts being one.

[MrJonno]

Choudary still lives and does his "work" in the UK.

The Daily Fail reports him making 25,000 pounds a year off the dole as he preaches his "religion of peace." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... state.html

Would love to know if the amounts involved are true or not, the only source is the Daily Mail/Sun and it would be a criminal offence for anyone in the benefits office to release the figures (wife used to work for the benefits office)?.

Some 'benefits' are automatic like child maintenance even if you are a millionaire for 4 kids its about £3000 and technically it goes to the mother if you are married. Not sure it makes much sense to even call that a benefit (it would be called a tax break in many countries we don't have them here).

The only way he could get near that would be to have some seriously handicapped children and possibly getting the rent paid (which wouldnt go to him either).

I call bullshit, the only way you can have a good life on the dole in the UK is by having other 'sources' of money which is quite possible in his case

[Coito ergo sum]

The point stands that people appear to be arbitrarily banned form entering the USA for relatively minor things.Drug busts being one.

Oh, well, your example of the Kinks doesn't stand.

And, the US does not admit people who have been convicted of trafficking drugs, money laundering and other serious crimes, but that is hardly "minor," and not at all unusual. Minor things will not really get you excluded by the State, nor would voicing the wrong opinion.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I heard that you can't get a US visa if you have ever had in-patient care for any mental health issue. I don't know how true that is but the person that told me was refused on those grounds. That was back in the 80s though, so things could have changed.

[Rum]

Being arrested in the UK can bar you from entry to the USA even if you are not prosecuted or found guilty. You have to declare the fact and the automatic waiver is suspended and you are required to apply for a visa. This is long winded and costly and one is not guaranteed of success. In the UK the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act means after a period you don't have to declare any offences you may have committed some years ago. This does not apply in the USA, so a kid who is done for a small dealing offence can quite easily find themselves barred from the USA.

Recent drug offences and misdemeanors can also result in barring.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail ... nal-record

[Collector1337]

When douche bags like Piers Morgan come here from the UK, can you blame us for being picky?

Please take that scum bag back.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

When douche bags like Piers Morgan come here from the UK, can you blame us for being picky?

Please take that scum bag back.

Sorry, you can kleep him. And Simon Cowell.

[Collector1337]

When douche bags like Piers Morgan come here from the UK, can you blame us for being picky?

Please take that scum bag back.

Sorry, you can kleep him. And Simon Cowell.

Based on this response, I propose an immigration moratorium from the UK to the US.

[laklak]

Wait till Mrs. Lak gets her citizenship, please. We've spent too much time and money to get the damn green card to have it blow up now.

[Collector1337]

Wait till Mrs. Lak gets her citizenship, please. We've spent too much time and money to get the damn green card to have it blow up now.

What do you need a green card for?

Just come here like the millions of illegals we already have and she'll be naturalized without penalty from the liberal immigration reform.

[laklak]

She isn't very good with a lawnmower and hates housework, so the Illegal Alien Union won't let her in.

[Coito ergo sum]

I heard that you can't get a US visa if you have ever had in-patient care for any mental health issue. I don't know how true that is but the person that told me was refused on those grounds. That was back in the 80s though, so things could have changed.

The only mental disorders that would make someone ineligible for admission to the US would be those that are likely to recur and likely to be harmful or dangerous to people or property. So, diagnosed pedophiles, psychopaths and such would fit in that category -- pyromaniacs - kleptomaniacs - etc., but neurotics, adjustment disorders, standard depression or anxiety, that's unlikely to present an issue as far as admission.

[Audley Strange]

My grandfather was banned from entering the U.S. for being a member of the Communist Party, as was Graham Greene and many other people. I think they also banned people who had Aids.

Not that this makes what we're doing any better.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I heard that you can't get a US visa if you have ever had in-patient care for any mental health issue. I don't know how true that is but the person that told me was refused on those grounds. That was back in the 80s though, so things could have changed.

The only mental disorders that would make someone ineligible for admission to the US would be those that are likely to recur and likely to be harmful or dangerous to people or property. So, diagnosed pedophiles, psychopaths and such would fit in that category -- pyromaniacs - kleptomaniacs - etc., but neurotics, adjustment disorders, standard depression or anxiety, that's unlikely to present an issue as far as admission.

Thinking about it, she may have just been ineligible for the visa waiver (although that wasn't how she phrased it.) She was in for a week or so for depression after a nervous breakdown which included driving her car into a river.

[Coito ergo sum]

Being arrested in the UK can bar you from entry to the USA even if you are not prosecuted or found guilty. You have to declare the fact and the automatic waiver is suspended and you are required to apply for a visa. This is long winded and costly and one is not guaranteed of success. In the UK the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act means after a period you don't have to declare any offences you may have committed some years ago. This does not apply in the USA, so a kid who is done for a small dealing offence can quite easily find themselves barred from the USA.

Recent drug offences and misdemeanors can also result in barring.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail ... nal-record

Having to apply for a visa is not a "Bar to entry." The visa waiver program is a very limited program for a limited number of countries around the world, and all countries who participate in the visa waiver program have similar kinds of restrictions. Getting a visa is no big deal, it just means that the visa applicant submits a visa application to a US consulate in their country and the consular folks do a background check. It's not generally more involved than what other countries do. Let's not forget that every country requires visas for entry as a general proposition, and where they don't the exceptions are limited. The visa waiver program is one and travelling within the EU is another exception.

The US does not deny entry for minor offenses. It does deny entry for repeat offenders and greater offenses. Note the use of the word "can" result in denial of entry. It's the longer term convictions for more serious offenses that present a problem. Getting busted for small amounts of pot isn't going to present a problem.

In the UK, a conviction for any misdemeanor involving a sentence of less than 12 months will result in a bar to entry, unless at least 5 years has passed. That would include drug crimes. And, you blokes have this catch-all -- "(4) failure to satisfy the Immigration Officer, in the case of a person arriving in the United Kingdom or seeking entry through the Channel Tunnel with the intention of entering any other part of the common travel area, that he is acceptable to the immigration authorities there;" LOL. Yes, if you are "unacceptable" then you're barred. And, "(6) where the Secretary of State has personally directed that the exclusion of a person from the United Kingdom is conducive to the public good;" And, "(7) save in relation to a person settled in the United Kingdom or where the Immigration Officer is satisfied that there are strong compassionate reasons justifying admission, confirmation from the Medical Inspector that, for medical reasons, it is undesirable to admit a person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom." http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... les/part9/

Minor reasons, indeed...