http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23064355Keith Vaz, chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, who had called for the bloggers to be banned from the UK, said: "I welcome the home secretary's ban on Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer from entering the country. This is the right decision. The UK should never become a stage for inflammatory speakers who promote hate."
Where's the hypocrisy? Those videos of Choudary are old. His group of shit stirrers got banned.Audley Strange wrote:Well while they clearly are shit stirrers, the hypocrisy in this is fucking stunning. Our regime fucking sickens me most of the time.
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There is a lot of that sort of criticism of the Fail, but if they did make this up, wouldn't it be easy to prove? Surely they may be sensationalist without everything they write being "false?" Sometimes, the more mainstream media avoids stories which they deem offensive or which may reflect negatively on "disadvantaged minorities" and such. Sometimes it's the papers like the Fail that can actually publish truthful stories that don't make the more mainstream media sources.Azathoth wrote:I bet they were jizzing in their pants writing that one. Benefits scroungers and muslims all rolled into one. Probably made up though. It is the daily fail.
.Calling it a "Jihadi Allowance," cleric Anjem Choundary, 45, has four kids, brings in £25,000, or just under $39,000 U.S. in benefits himself, and says that this is the way it is supposed to work according to Islamic law
Recorded by both the U.K. Sun and Telegraph, Choundary says:
"We are on Jihad Seekers Allowance, we take the Jizya (protection money paid to Muslims by non-Muslims) which is ours anyway.
"The normal situation is to take money from the [non-Muslims] isn't it? So this is the normal situation."
“They give us the money. You work, give us the money. Allah Akbar, we take the money. Hopefully there is no one from the DSS (Department of Social Security) listening.”
“Ah, but you see people will say you are not working. But the normal situation is for you to take money from the Kuffar (non-Muslim) So we take Jihad Seeker’s Allowance.”
Choudray goes on in a separate videos to mock English workers performing 9 to 5 jobs, and tells followers that some of the most famous Islamic figures worked only one or two days a week.
“The rest of the year they were busy with jihad [holy war] and things like that,” he says, according to The Telegraph. “People will say, ‘Ah, but you are not working.’"
“But the normal situation is for you to take money from the kuffar [non-believers].”
“So we take Jihad Seeker’s Allowance. You need to get support.”
He the tells a crowd of about 30 followers: “We are going to take England — the Muslims are coming.”
“These people are like a tsunami going across Europe. And over here we’re just relaxing, taking over Bradford brother. The reality is changing.”
He's British - we can't simply kick him out of the country. He's well educated as a former solicitor so he probably does find it easy to make the most of the benefit system - but so what? We can't exactly give out benefits based on 'how much do we like you'. If he's found to be cheating he will lose them - they are already very tough on fraud. He's also being very closely watched and knows he can't get away with promoting extremist views any more.Coito ergo sum wrote:Choudary still lives and does his "work" in the UK.
The Daily Fail reports him making 25,000 pounds a year off the dole as he preaches his "religion of peace." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... state.html
Think of all the people with cancer who can't get decent treatment because of those Muslim dole scrounges..... and Diana.Azathoth wrote:I bet they were jizzing in their pants writing that one. Benefits scroungers and muslims all rolled into one. Probably made up though. It is the daily fail.
Well, the fact that he could be an able bodied advanced degreed professional and collect benefits in the first place seems to me ought to be considered "cheating" per se. However, that's a policy judgment. Maybe it's not cheating in the UK.PsychoSerenity wrote:He's British - we can't simply kick him out of the country. He's well educated as a former solicitor so he probably does find it easy to make the most of the benefit system - but so what? We can't exactly give out benefits based on 'how much do we like you'. If he's found to be cheating he will lose them - they are already very tough on fraud. He's also being very closely watched and knows he can't get away with promoting extremist views any more.Coito ergo sum wrote:Choudary still lives and does his "work" in the UK.
The Daily Fail reports him making 25,000 pounds a year off the dole as he preaches his "religion of peace." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... state.html
It's certainly no reason to let other minority groups stir up indiscriminate hatred and violence against anyone vaguely muslim. The best thing we can do is promote education and secularism, but unfortunately the Christians keep hindering that as well.
Weren't the Kinks blacklisted by the recording artist union?Rum wrote:Both nasty pieces of work. Them and the EDL in one room?
..when they are forinn too!
The USA, let us remember, can very very strict about who to keep out, The Kinks were banned for four years ffs!
According to Ray Davies they were. But he is a well known spinner of yarns so who knows.Coito ergo sum wrote:Weren't the Kinks blacklisted by the recording artist union?Rum wrote:Both nasty pieces of work. Them and the EDL in one room?
..when they are forinn too!
The USA, let us remember, can very very strict about who to keep out, The Kinks were banned for four years ffs!
I don't think the Kinks were ever banned from entering the US.
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