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Geology question

Post by Tero » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:21 am

I've been "discussing" with this Finish conspiracy nut for years now.

He shows this map and text
http://kuvaton.com/k/Y6Rh.jpg

there is English text which someone translated for him poorly. He says it moved in the direction of the arrow 55cm recently. I think it is badly worded for the layman to understand in English.

"Yellow circle, which tectonics has moved recently, especially in 2003 rock bedrock 55cm cutting direction of the arrows."

Looks like someone messed with the word rock, a new font.

This is on the Olkiluoto island where the reactors are. Also the underground storage vault.

The KR sites are test drill sites.

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:14 pm

Previous thread here: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=38304

Not sure I can add anything, except to say that I can't immediately find reference anywhere on the internet to a major fault movement there in 2003.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:17 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:Previous thread here: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=38304

Not sure I can add anything, except to say that I can't immediately find reference anywhere on the internet to a major fault movement there in 2003.
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Post by Azathoth » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:24 pm

Seems rather odd seeing as there are no major surface faults mapped there. For it to defined as recent movement surely it would have to have been defined before unless he is proposing a whole new fault system appearing. I think you can safely call bullshit or human error.
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Post by Tero » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:32 pm

Thanks. The older thread stuff is pretty much cleared up. The boulders and location of rocks and caves is pretty much all ice age stuff. The Swedish geologist has gone senile, bonkers.

The 55cm seems to be a measure of something, on a real map Arto has got hold of. The English wording is all jargon to me.

Here are all the drill holes on the island. The red text is his own text
http://kuvaton.com/k/Y6RW.jpg

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Post by Faithfree » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:28 pm

All I can add is that the circle with a line through it is a symbol used on some geological maps to indicate ice movement direction as determined by striations left on bed rock. An arrow head is added to the line if an unequivocal direction can be determined. The head is left off when it cant.

That's not what the caption says, but could the symbol have been misinterpreted?
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Post by Tero » Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:03 pm

There is an official geology report. I think Olkiluoto, Geology and Posiva should give that from google. All fractures were mapped. Lots of ice age activity.

It's still the 55cm that puzzles me. A 10mm vertical movement is a major event in Scandinavia. This is not vertical, however.

The pdf will have a detailed report, I dont have the link handy. Here is some other data on the site
http://en.gtk.fi/research/program/energ ... udies.html

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Post by Azathoth » Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:38 pm

I would hazard a guess that 55cm was extracted rectally
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Re: Geology question

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:10 pm

Here is his 55cm "fault"


I see a crack that has a gap on our side. The crack certainly is a crack. And it does look like rocks match, something moved a apiece to the left.But..

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:25 pm

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Re: Geology question

Post by Faithfree » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:27 pm

Tero wrote:Here is his 55cm "fault"


I see a crack that has a gap on our side. The crack certainly is a crack. And it does look like rocks match, something moved a apiece to the left.But..
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Yep, that's a small scale fault, based on the displacement of the dark layer that she's pointing out. There is no sugestion that it's recent - more likely millions of years old (before the process - glaciation? - that planed off the surface). And no way to tell if it moved in one step, or more likely many small steps over a long period of time.

The gap in the forground on our side is almost certainly not directely related to the fault movement, but more likely similar to the other chunk missing on our side of the fault on the left of the woman. This is probably a chunk plucked out by ice movement (if that is the cause of the plaining of the surface).
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Re: Geology question

Post by Thinking Aloud » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:33 pm

Going by the erosion surface, that fracture hasn't moved any time recently. In the background you can see the fracture climbing up the surface, with a roughly even topography either side. If it had moved recently (post glacial erosion) the erosion surface would be offset by a similar amount over there - it would be blindingly obvious.

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Re: Geology question

Post by Tero » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:58 pm

Thanks guys. I quoted some of that. If Arto responds, unlikely, I will also translate to Finnish. His English is poor, so he uses fantasy to interpret text.

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