Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

[Robert_S]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/1 ... 81229.html

1 in 12 US marriages are interracial... it won't be long at that rate.

[Pappa]

So there's no such thing as race or gender because we are all (every human) 99% the same. So racial AND gender profiling should be given the heave ho. And police descriptions using those old fashioned, unscientific terms should go as well. Are we all happy now?

Stupid comparison.
Nearly all humans (with some rare exceptions due to chromosomal abnormalities) can be classified according to gender, because of Unique and Universal genetic traits.
All females have two X chromsomes, no males have two X chromosomes.
All males have one X and one Y chromosome, no females have Y chromosomes.
Now please state the Unique and Unversal genetic traits that can be applied to humans that can be used to classify them into races.

There are many unique genetic traits that distinguish one 'race' from another (I'll call it subspecies from now). There are several human subspecies. Some are widely separated, some less so. And there are intermediate mixes of the subspecies. We might call them varieties.

There are some human subspecies that have incompatible genes & are thus cross-sterile (my spouse & I for example), that we could justifiably claim that they are different species, but I'm happy to restrict them to subspecies.

The systematists/taxonomists definition of subspecies is: They rarely choose to interbreed, but are able to have viable fertile offspring should they do so. There are MANY human societies that fit that criterion.

The systematists/taxonomists definition of species is: They can NOT interbreed, rarely try to do so, & If they try to cross-breed they are mostly cross-sterile. And if they have an occasional offspring from that union, it is sterile.

Now, humans fit both categories. There are societies that prefer not to mix. There are also classes who are to a greater or lesser extent cross-sterile; that is, cannot have viable babies.

So, it is absolutely certain that humans are divided into subspecies & variants thereof.

Galaxian, unless your wife is a chimpanzee, your cross-sterile thing is bollocks.

[Galaxian]

So there's no such thing as race or gender because we are all (every human) 99% the same. So racial AND gender profiling should be given the heave ho. And police descriptions using those old fashioned, unscientific terms should go as well. Are we all happy now?

Stupid comparison.
Nearly all humans (with some rare exceptions due to chromosomal abnormalities) can be classified according to gender, because of Unique and Universal genetic traits.
All females have two X chromsomes, no males have two X chromosomes.
All males have one X and one Y chromosome, no females have Y chromosomes.
Now please state the Unique and Unversal genetic traits that can be applied to humans that can be used to classify them into races.

There are many unique genetic traits that distinguish one 'race' from another (I'll call it subspecies from now). There are several human subspecies. Some are widely separated, some less so. And there are intermediate mixes of the subspecies. We might call them varieties.

There are some human subspecies that have incompatible genes & are thus cross-sterile (my spouse & I for example), that we could justifiably claim that they are different species, but I'm happy to restrict them to subspecies.

The systematists/taxonomists definition of subspecies is: They rarely choose to interbreed, but are able to have viable fertile offspring should they do so. There are MANY human societies that fit that criterion.

The systematists/taxonomists definition of species is: They can NOT interbreed, rarely try to do so, & If they try to cross-breed they are mostly cross-sterile. And if they have an occasional offspring from that union, it is sterile.

Now, humans fit both categories. There are societies that prefer not to mix. There are also classes who are to a greater or lesser extent cross-sterile; that is, cannot have viable babies.

So, it is absolutely certain that humans are divided into subspecies & variants thereof.

Galaxian, unless your wife is a chimpanzee, your cross-sterile thing is bollocks.

I was referring to my marriage, not Galaxian's. And how do you know whether either Galaxian or me is male or female?

As for us we're Rh- & Rh+. In other words the likelihood of a dead/dying infant is very high

[NineBerry]

How many people are living there inside this head eh account?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

How many people are living there inside this head eh account?

[pinkharrier]

I thought my 99% the same comment was obviously sarcastic. Not to all, however. My point is that these 99% the same comparisons to prove the non existence of race, height, gender, age are so much BS. We are probably 98%+ the same as chimps but no one, yet, implies that this proves the non existence of species. But people could and will if ideology drives them in that direction. Moral vanity is a powerful motor.

[tattuchu]

I thought my 99% the same comment was obviously sarcastic. Not to all, however. My point is that these 99% the same comparisons to prove the non existence of race, height, gender, age are so much BS. We are probably 98%+ the same as chimps but no one, yet, implies that this proves the non existence of species. But people could and will if ideology drives them in that direction. Moral vanity is a powerful motor.

Ah. I thought you might have been sarcastic in that post. Yeah, I'm puzzled by the there's-no-such-thing-as-race arguments It seems to me patently absurd

[NineBerry]

Brits and USAnians might be 99% genetically similar, but their consistently different spelling of words like "colour" and "flavour" shows they are a different race.

[laklak]

Plus, Brits eat jellied eels. Only another fucking species would eat jellied eels. My dogs won't even eat jellied eels, and they'll eat raccoon shit.

[Pappa]

Plus, Brits eat jellied eels. Only another fucking species would eat jellied eels. My dogs won't even eat jellied eels, and they'll eat raccoon shit.

I've never eaten jellied eels, but I'd like to.

[laklak]

Probably the most sound basis for racial profiling would be race. Hair color isn't as accurate (think Wesley Snipes in Demolition Man). Height doesn't work too well because of midgets. So it has to be race, eh?

[NineBerry]

So the people planning on boarding an aircraft have to race each other and the fastest ones are then profiled.

[Pappa]

So there's no such thing as race or gender because we are all (every human) 99% the same. So racial AND gender profiling should be given the heave ho. And police descriptions using those old fashioned, unscientific terms should go as well. Are we all happy now?

Stupid comparison.
Nearly all humans (with some rare exceptions due to chromosomal abnormalities) can be classified according to gender, because of Unique and Universal genetic traits.
All females have two X chromsomes, no males have two X chromosomes.
All males have one X and one Y chromosome, no females have Y chromosomes.
Now please state the Unique and Unversal genetic traits that can be applied to humans that can be used to classify them into races.

There are many unique genetic traits that distinguish one 'race' from another (I'll call it subspecies from now). There are several human subspecies. Some are widely separated, some less so. And there are intermediate mixes of the subspecies. We might call them varieties.

There are some human subspecies that have incompatible genes & are thus cross-sterile (my spouse & I for example), that we could justifiably claim that they are different species, but I'm happy to restrict them to subspecies.

The systematists/taxonomists definition of subspecies is: They rarely choose to interbreed, but are able to have viable fertile offspring should they do so. There are MANY human societies that fit that criterion.

The systematists/taxonomists definition of species is: They can NOT interbreed, rarely try to do so, & If they try to cross-breed they are mostly cross-sterile. And if they have an occasional offspring from that union, it is sterile.

Now, humans fit both categories. There are societies that prefer not to mix. There are also classes who are to a greater or lesser extent cross-sterile; that is, cannot have viable babies.

So, it is absolutely certain that humans are divided into subspecies & variants thereof.

Galaxian, unless your wife is a chimpanzee, your cross-sterile thing is bollocks.

I was referring to my marriage, not Galaxian's. And how do you know whether either Galaxian or me is male or female?

As for us we're Rh- & Rh+. In other words the likelihood of a dead/dying infant is very high

Can you repost that in English please?

[FBM]

Plus, Brits eat jellied eels. Only another fucking species would eat jellied eels. My dogs won't even eat jellied eels, and they'll eat raccoon shit.

Koreans and other Asians (and I) eat 번데기 like they're (the 번데기, not the Asians) popcorn, but when I tried to feed some to my (American) friend's cat, the cat just looked at me like, 'The fuck is that? I wanted food.'

[Jason]