Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

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Re: Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:52 am

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pinkharrier wrote:I am 99% the same as my sister. Therefore there is no such thing as gender. It is a simple argument for,well, peopie who like easy answers.
Ya know, there are kooks out there that do think gender is a social construct.
And absolute nutters who think race is a real thing.
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Re: Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

Post by JimC » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:14 pm

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Post by MrJonno » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:27 pm

Any moral problems with growing human organs to eat if it doesn't involve killing anyone?.

I can see a few with wasting public resources but it gets cheap enough not sure there is much to object on?
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Post by JimC » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:31 am

MrJonno wrote:Any moral problems with growing human organs to eat if it doesn't involve killing anyone?.

I can see a few with wasting public resources but it gets cheap enough not sure there is much to object on?
They are more likely to be contaminated with microorganisms that are infectious to humans than non-human, vat-raised meat...
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Re: Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

Post by pinkharrier » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:51 am

So there's no such thing as race or gender because we are all (every human) 99% the same. So racial AND gender profiling should be given the heave ho. And police descriptions using those old fashioned, unscientific terms should go as well. Are we all happy now?

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Re: Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

Post by rainbow » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:14 am

pinkharrier wrote:So there's no such thing as race or gender because we are all (every human) 99% the same. So racial AND gender profiling should be given the heave ho. And police descriptions using those old fashioned, unscientific terms should go as well. Are we all happy now?
Stupid comparison.
Nearly all humans (with some rare exceptions due to chromosomal abnormalities) can be classified according to gender, because of Unique and Universal genetic traits.
All females have two X chromsomes, no males have two X chromosomes.
All males have one X and one Y chromosome, no females have Y chromosomes.

Now please state the Unique and Unversal genetic traits that can be applied to humans that can be used to classify them into races.
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Re: Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

Post by NineBerry » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:26 am

It's not so clear cut for the sexes either. There are people born with both sexes expressed visually (aka intersexuals). There there are people who have a different gender than their biological sex. (Transgender). And then you have the fact that some female humans have typically male traits and vice versa, for example considering fat deposit strategy of the body and so on.

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NineBerry wrote:It's not so clear cut for the sexes either. There are people born with both sexes expressed visually (aka intersexuals). There there are people who have a different gender than their biological sex. (Transgender). And then you have the fact that some female humans have typically male traits and vice versa, for example considering fat deposit strategy of the body and so on.
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Re: Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

Post by NineBerry » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:49 am

The reported phenomenons exits all over the world. Especially the last one mentioned is very common.

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NineBerry wrote:The reported phenomenons exits all over the world. Especially the last one mentioned is very common.
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Post by NineBerry » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:12 am

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:38 am

"Sound basis"? Just listen to what they're playing on the radio.
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Post by Galaxian » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:49 am

rainbow wrote:
pinkharrier wrote:So there's no such thing as race or gender because we are all (every human) 99% the same. So racial AND gender profiling should be given the heave ho. And police descriptions using those old fashioned, unscientific terms should go as well. Are we all happy now?
Stupid comparison.
Nearly all humans (with some rare exceptions due to chromosomal abnormalities) can be classified according to gender, because of Unique and Universal genetic traits.
All females have two X chromsomes, no males have two X chromosomes.
All males have one X and one Y chromosome, no females have Y chromosomes.
Now please state the Unique and Unversal genetic traits that can be applied to humans that can be used to classify them into races.
There are many unique genetic traits that distinguish one 'race' from another (I'll call it subspecies from now). There are several human subspecies. Some are widely separated, some less so. And there are intermediate mixes of the subspecies. We might call them varieties.

There are some human subspecies that have incompatible genes & are thus cross-sterile (my spouse & I for example), that we could justifiably claim that they are different species, but I'm happy to restrict them to subspecies.

The systematists/taxonomists definition of subspecies is: They rarely choose to interbreed, but are able to have viable fertile offspring should they do so. There are MANY human societies that fit that criterion.

The systematists/taxonomists definition of species is: They can NOT interbreed, rarely try to do so, & If they try to cross-breed they are mostly cross-sterile. And if they have an occasional offspring from that union, it is sterile.

Now, humans fit both categories. There are societies that prefer not to mix. There are also classes who are to a greater or lesser extent cross-sterile; that is, cannot have viable babies.

So, it is absolutely certain that humans are divided into subspecies & variants thereof. :read:
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Re: Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:52 am

That made no sense at all.
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Re: Is There A Sound Basis For Racial Profiling?

Post by NineBerry » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:57 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:"Sound basis"? Just listen to what they're playing on the radio.
Not funny. German city journalist Dominic Herzberg reported about how he was controlled and searched by police in a shopping mall because he listened to a song with Arabic lyrics on his ipod. http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/far-cry-2 ... 19596.html

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