Shops could face legal action over 'lads' mags'

[Azathoth]

[klr]

Arrgh! It's Mary Whitehouse!

[Audley Strange]

I bet she was a dirty bitch in bed.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Bitch be showin' lots of skin.

[Seth]

There is now a permanent underclass who no longer have manual skilled or unskilled work to do as such jobs don't exist any more. That isn't changing any time soon. Even relatively basic jobs are pretty skilled these days, my local charity shop won't 'employ' someone as a volunteer unless they are a graduate as they need to learn a large range of skills to do the job

And everybody else should be forced to labor on behalf of the indolent, lazy and wilfully uneducated why, exactly?

Because you have to live alongside them ?, its protection money and a damn good investment

I pay extortionists in copper-jacketed lead delivered at 3000 FPS, 168 grains at a time.

I pay my taxes, and the police come and arrest anyone trying extortion.
This is what normally happens in civilised countries.

The choice given was "hand over your hard-earned money to the seething dependent class or they will rise up and smite you."

I choose to smite them instead. If they want some, they can come try to get some and we'll see who ends up with the money.

If the choice is "pay for your use of the roads, sewers, parks, etc. or we'll put you in jail," why I'm fine with that. I've always paid more than my fair share for the perks of society.

If you can't understand the distinction between the two kinds of government levies you need serious remedial education.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Just who the fuck have you smitten?

[Tyrannical]

The poor stay poor because of an unholy alliance between liberals to get votes and rich companies to reduce costs.

Let in low skilled immigrants, labor supply increases decreasing wages.
Government steps in and offers supplemental "benefits"
People on benefits vote for politicians that give them out

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yeah, liberals and big money are long time bedmates.

Moron.

[MrJonno]

The choice given was "hand over your hard-earned money to the seething dependent class or they will rise up and smite you."

I choose to smite them instead. If they want some, they can come try to get some and we'll see who ends up with the money.

If the choice is "pay for your use of the roads, sewers, parks, etc. or we'll put you in jail," why I'm fine with that. I've always paid more than my fair share for the perks of society.

If you can't understand the distinction between the two kinds of government levies you need serious remedial education.

If you can't understand its not up to you to determine if there is a different between those two governments or that other people decide what your fair share is and you don't
then I guess then its a good job the US government is occasionally quite good at dealing with terrorists

[Seth]

Just who the fuck have you smitten?

Wouldn't you like to know...

I could tell you, but then I'd have to smite you.

[Seth]

The choice given was "hand over your hard-earned money to the seething dependent class or they will rise up and smite you."

I choose to smite them instead. If they want some, they can come try to get some and we'll see who ends up with the money.

If the choice is "pay for your use of the roads, sewers, parks, etc. or we'll put you in jail," why I'm fine with that. I've always paid more than my fair share for the perks of society.

If you can't understand the distinction between the two kinds of government levies you need serious remedial education.

If you can't understand its not up to you to determine if there is a different between those two governments or that other people decide what your fair share is and you don't
then I guess then its a good job the US government is occasionally quite good at dealing with terrorists

"Occasionally" being the key word. Now they're dithering over the adaptation of asymmetrical warfare tactic of Al Quaeda and other Muslim extremist groups which advocates that martyrs work solo, as "lone wolf" killers, not associating with other Muslims and killing when opportunity arises.

Classic Sun Tsu tactics.

And thus the need for every citizen to be armed and prepared to take immediate action to stop the lone-wolf terrorists, like the head-choppers in London, the moment they try to act.

It took TWENTY FUCKING MINUTES for armed police to respond to that incident, and all the while the terrorists were parading about encouraging people to film them with their cell phones so their message would go viral even before the police shot them.

"Occasionally" indeed.

Here's the hypocrisy of your position: You are currently the beneficiary of government redistributionism, and you've admitted as much, so you are biased and have an obvious self-serving agenda to support the theft of property and labor from others because you are a leech and a drain on society who requires support.

But if YOU were the one being chained to the grist mill in order that "society" can get some minimal value out of you before you drop dead from overwork, your attitude would be markedly different.

You're unable to view anything from any position other than your own selfish dependency, which makes your arguments rather more than a little bit loony and selfish.

Get a fucking job and quit stealing from other people.

[MrJonno]

Here's the hypocrisy of your position: You are currently the beneficiary of government redistributionism, and you've admitted as much, so you are biased and have an obvious self-serving agenda to support the theft of property and labor from others because you are a leech and a drain on society who requires support

As far as I know I'm a general net contributor (earn above average wages) and while every everyone is self serving to some level society works on the basis if everyone acts that way when they vote the majority will benefit and avoid the tyranny of dictators and minorities groups

It took TWENTY FUCKING MINUTES for armed police to respond to that incident, and all the while the terrorists were parading about encouraging people to film them with their cell phones so their message would go viral even before the police shot them.

Wouldn't have made any difference if it had taken 20 hours, public acted very sensibly attempted first aid and generally ignored the criminals. I'm sure a gun battle between civilians and the loonies would have improved the situation in Seth world but in reality it went about as well as could be expected. If an armed criminal wants you to film them then a very good move is to film them not confront them

Also well done on the police taking these morons alive when I doubt if it was what they wanted

[Seth]

Here's the hypocrisy of your position: You are currently the beneficiary of government redistributionism, and you've admitted as much, so you are biased and have an obvious self-serving agenda to support the theft of property and labor from others because you are a leech and a drain on society who requires support

As far as I know I'm a general net contributor (earn above average wages) and while every everyone is self serving to some level society works on the basis if everyone acts that way when they vote the majority will benefit and avoid the tyranny of dictators and minorities groups

It took TWENTY FUCKING MINUTES for armed police to respond to that incident, and all the while the terrorists were parading about encouraging people to film them with their cell phones so their message would go viral even before the police shot them.

Wouldn't have made any difference if it had taken 20 hours, public acted very sensibly attempted first aid and generally ignored the criminals. I'm sure a gun battle between civilians and the loonies would have improved the situation in Seth world but in reality it went about as well as could be expected. If an armed criminal wants you to film them then a very good move is to film them not confront them

Also well done on the police taking these morons alive when I doubt if it was what they wanted

I don't film murders in progress, I do my damnedest to put a stop to the attack using whatever weapons come to hand. Fucking cowardly Brits.

And if the terrorists had started chopping other people up? It's fine with you that they can chop people up with impunity and stand there laughing about it for 20 minutes I suppose...until it's YOU who are up for the chop. At that point you'll be pissing and shitting yourself praying that SOMEONE, ANYONE will intervene to save you...or your daughter...or your son...or your wife...or your girlfriend...or your dog.

I've never met a pacifist that didn't have a limit and a line that if crossed will result in them using force, up to and including deadly force, to defend themselves or others.

You'd be the first, but even if you insisted you would, I'd say you were either lying or delusional because nobody can say that reliably until it actually happens to them.

Here's hoping you get to test your pacifist resolve someday.

[MrJonno]

I don't film murders in progress, I do my damnedest to put a stop to the attack using whatever weapons come to hand. Fucking cowardly Brits.

No one filmed a murder in progress, I don't even think anyone even noticed a murder was taking place. Strangely enough in a busy city people shouting and arguing with each other is something that wouldn't make most people even blink, I'm sure you go up to every homeless person lying in the street and have a chat about how they are doing which I suspect it looked like

Afterwards if you see a murderer making some inane speech and asking you to film it, you are both getting evidence, ensuring the killer doesnt run away and lets be honest making yourself somewhat famous a somewhat sensible move.

[Seth]

I don't film murders in progress, I do my damnedest to put a stop to the attack using whatever weapons come to hand. Fucking cowardly Brits.

No one filmed a murder in progress, I don't even think anyone even noticed a murder was taking place.

Wrong.

Strangely enough in a busy city people shouting and arguing with each other is something that wouldn't make most people even blink, I'm sure you go up to every homeless person lying in the street and have a chat about how they are doing which I suspect it looked like

Afterwards if you see a murderer making some inane speech and asking you to film it, you are both getting evidence, ensuring the killer doesnt run away and lets be honest making yourself somewhat famous a somewhat sensible move.

"Ensuring he killer doesn't run away"?
The only Brits who could make sure that guy didn't run away were the armed police that took 20 minutes to get there or perhaps an off-duty SAS troopie or two.

He didn't even TRY to run away because he KNEW nobody would try to stop him and he WANTED to be filmed before the police arrived, at which point he tried to martyr himself by attacking the police. Perhaps he thought they too would be unarmed, as they usually are.