Women who complain about men who hit on women

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Women who complain about men who hit on women

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue May 28, 2013 1:33 pm

Here we have it -- now, women who complain about men hitting on women or "creeping" are actually demeaning the women who don't get hit on by the creepers:
All this can leave women who tend not to be targeted by non-platonic male attention (positive or negative) with an odd sense of resentment. It was, for example, incredibly hard for me to be sympathetic with women complaining about how much harassment they experience when they issue universally-worded (but clearly not universally-applicable) warnings. Instead of feeling sympathy for their mistreatment, I would feel annoyed at their thoughtless overlooking of my femaleness. I had to fight the urge to think of them as somehow allied with their harassers in their shared inability to acknowledge the fact that I am also a woman.

Ditto for the exclamations of “Oh my glob, you didn’t know that [insert name here] is creepy! Ha! Duh, he’s a creeper!” All that the mocking of a woman who haven’t realized that a certain man has a reputation accomplishes is to point out that he hasn’t harassed her. There are better ways to potentially warn someone than to single them out as undesirable to someone (albeit a “creeper”). Mention that he has a reputation for lechery, perhaps, instead of declaring that he hits on all girls.
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Post by MrJonno » Tue May 28, 2013 1:48 pm

Reproduction is basically a hunter/prey interaction, its a lot more civil that a man jumping on a woman and forcing himself (i.e. persuasion is the weapon of choice) and in fact a woman can be the hunter but the fundamental operation hasn't changed and is basic to all forms of life
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Post by hadespussercats » Tue May 28, 2013 1:57 pm

Men who complain about women who complain about men who hit on women- the next installment.
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Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue May 28, 2013 2:00 pm

hadespussercats wrote:Men who complain about women who complain about men who hit on women- the next installment.
There's a thread on that already. http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=43942

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Post by hadespussercats » Tue May 28, 2013 2:02 pm

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hadespussercats wrote:Men who complain about women who complain about men who hit on women- the next installment.
There's a thread on that already. http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=43942
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue May 28, 2013 2:05 pm

hadespussercats wrote:Men who complain about women who complain about men who hit on women- the next installment.
We can reduce that to the lowest common denominator: "men who complain" are wrong. Men who hit on women are wrong. That reduces to "men are wrong."

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Post by FBM » Tue May 28, 2013 2:08 pm

"Men who complain about women who suggest the topic of men who complain about men who complain about women who complain about men who complain about women who complain about men who hit on women when there's a thread on that already."
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Post by hadespussercats » Tue May 28, 2013 2:14 pm

FBM wrote:"Men who complain about women who suggest the topic of men who complain about men who complain about women who complain about men who complain about women who complain about men who hit on women when there's a thread on that already."
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Post by FBM » Tue May 28, 2013 2:16 pm

If only I had any idea what I actually said. :hehe:
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Tue May 28, 2013 2:16 pm

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue May 28, 2013 2:18 pm

The only thing we have to complain about is......complaining itself!

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 28, 2013 2:49 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Here we have it -- now, women who complain about men hitting on women or "creeping" are actually demeaning the women who don't get hit on by the creepers:
All this can leave women who tend not to be targeted by non-platonic male attention (positive or negative) with an odd sense of resentment. It was, for example, incredibly hard for me to be sympathetic with women complaining about how much harassment they experience when they issue universally-worded (but clearly not universally-applicable) warnings. Instead of feeling sympathy for their mistreatment, I would feel annoyed at their thoughtless overlooking of my femaleness. I had to fight the urge to think of them as somehow allied with their harassers in their shared inability to acknowledge the fact that I am also a woman.

Ditto for the exclamations of “Oh my glob, you didn’t know that [insert name here] is creepy! Ha! Duh, he’s a creeper!” All that the mocking of a woman who haven’t realized that a certain man has a reputation accomplishes is to point out that he hasn’t harassed her. There are better ways to potentially warn someone than to single them out as undesirable to someone (albeit a “creeper”). Mention that he has a reputation for lechery, perhaps, instead of declaring that he hits on all girls.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 28, 2013 2:50 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:The only thing we have to complain about is......complaining itself!
complainersplainer. :coffee:
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Re: Women who complain about men who hit on women

Post by MrJonno » Tue May 28, 2013 2:53 pm

Some of those women are so annoying I'm tempted to follow one into a lift, say fancy coming to my room for a coffee and then saying sorry love joking I'm not that desperate
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Post by Audley Strange » Tue May 28, 2013 2:58 pm

rEvolutionist wrote: I would feel annoyed at their thoughtless overlooking of my femaleness. I had to fight the urge to think of them as somehow allied with their harassers in their shared inability to acknowledge the fact that I am also a woman.
I think the lad doth protest too much. Sounds much more like a whining self absorbed brat. Seriously how many people walk around making that their primary concern, what does she want a prize for having a cunt?
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