Gun derail from Oklahoma City thread.

[Jason]

Not every thread.

[JimC]

Not every thread.

XC meant Collector of Trash, not you...

[FBM]

Importing in progress.

[Collector1337]

Since I am a gun owner, but don't share your views, I find your sweeping generalization difficult to accept.

What are my views?

If you are a gun owner, than what do you feel when people blame you for gun crime?

[mistermack]

How fuckin stupid is this argument? Guns are like tornadoes?

The big difference, even to the most stupid, should be obvious. Tornadoes can't be affected by laws.
Nobody chooses to unleash a tornado. They aren't being kept going by a "tornado lobby" or a "national twister association".

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[Robert_S]

Ya just lost me Collector.

Yer pissin' graves here.

[Tero]

Tornados are somewhat predictable: move out of tornado alley.

Gun deaths are even more predictable. Most gun deaths sre caused by gun owners.

[MrJonno]

How fuckin stupid is this argument? Guns are like tornadoes?

The big difference, even to the most stupid, should be obvious. Tornadoes can't be affected by laws.
Nobody chooses to unleash a tornado. They aren't being kept going by a "tornado lobby" or a "national twister association".

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Are you saying people shouldn't be able to have personal weather machines, if they get out of control and kill someone well you can't blame responsible weather machine owners?

[Seth]

How fuckin stupid is this argument? Guns are like tornadoes?

The big difference similarity, even to the most stupid, should be obvious. Criminals with guns Tornadoes can't be affected by laws.
Nobody who is a law-abiding citizen chooses to unleash a tornado criminal with a gun.

[Seth]

Tornados are somewhat predictable: move out of tornado alley.

Gun deaths are even more predictable. Most gun deaths sre caused by gun owners.

Begging the question fallacy. The question is which type of gun owners cause deaths, and the answer is "criminal gun owners," who are, ipso facto, undeterred by the fact that it's illegal for them to even posses a gun, much less use it in committing a crime. Therefore, gun laws that restrict access to guns affect ONLY law-abiding citizens, and not the criminals that the laws are purported to be aimed at. That's precisely why we object to more such laws...they are ineffective at achieving their stated purpose, they unduly and unnecessarily infringe on the gun rights of law-abiding citizens, and they are intended as stepping-stones to even greater restrictions on law-abiding gun owners, by design and intent.

[Collector1337]

How fuckin stupid is this argument? Guns are like tornadoes?

The big difference, even to the most stupid, should be obvious. Tornadoes can't be affected by laws.
Nobody chooses to unleash a tornado. They aren't being kept going by a "tornado lobby" or a "national twister association".

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Okay... I guess my tongue-in-cheek wasn't obvious enough for you. That's a shame. Yet everyone around here acts like they're a genius. Apparently senses of humors are diminished on internet forums.

I wasn't comparing guns with tornadoes. I was commenting on the ways humans die and the, often times, feeble attempts people make to minimize those deaths, particularly laws.

Waiting for the "something must be done" or "think of the children" mindset to surface.

[Jason]

First off, you often match the behaviour of a POE so that makes getting your meaning right difficult when it isn't straightforward. Whether it was appropriate or not is tied up with your point.

The general frustration with your idea of engaging in an argument is deserved.

[Seth]

First off, you often match the behaviour of a POE so that makes getting your meaning right difficult when it isn't straightforward. Whether it was appropriate or not is tied up with your point.

The general frustration with your idea of engaging in an argument is deserved.

I got the metaphor immediately. What's wrong with you that you didn't?

[Jason]

Hard for me to type with one gimped hand.. but it might be because I don't go to NRA meetings every Sunday so I'm not familiar with that scripture.

[Collector1337]

Hard for me to type with one gimped hand.. but it might be because I don't go to NRA meetings every Sunday so I'm not familiar with that scripture.

I guess you're just not that bright.

I'm not a member of the NRA, btw.