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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Animavore » Tue May 14, 2013 7:07 pm

That spawn children like those on My Super Sweet Sixteen and its ilk.
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by JimC » Wed May 15, 2013 4:26 am

As a hypothetical, what would be the ethical position if Disneyland offered special tickets, with access to the head of any line, at a cost, say, 5 or 10 times the going rate?
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JimC wrote:As a hypothetical, what would be the ethical position if Disneyland offered special tickets, with access to the head of any line, at a cost, say, 5 or 10 times the going rate?
Universal studios offers that free for resort guests and others can get it for an additional fee.
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Wed May 15, 2013 9:39 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Some people are just selfish cunts. These are the same people that "borrow" disabled badges so they can park next to the supermarket entrance. That "share" their choice of music with the entire neighbourhood. That keep three or four dogs tied up and barking in the garden all night.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 15, 2013 9:56 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... Vc1zItXGDP

These folks should be smacked silly.

LOL --

Rich "moms" (I don't know why they are blaming the moms -- are the dads not in on it?) -- rich "parents" are apparently hiring a service which will assign a handicapped person as a tour guide for the family at Disney. Being handicapped, he or she can get up to 6 other persons to the front of the line immediately, cutting in front of the riff-raff.

One "mom" quoted in the article crowed about "her daughter" only have to wait a few minutes, while everyone else's kids had to wait in the full 2 hour long line.... That's the kind of woman I wouldn't even bother to piss on if she was on fire. :|~ I loathe such people.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 15, 2013 9:56 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Shouldn't that be "Black (as Obama) Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney" - that would emphasise teh ebulz. :tea:
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 15, 2013 9:58 am

Animavore wrote:
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Animavore wrote:I don't see the problem. Seems like fair game to me. What exactly is your contention? I mean except the snobbery of it.
Isn't the snobbery enough?

Actually, they are breaking the rules, since the black market guides are posing, dishonestly, as family members. It's supposed to be that if you have a handicapped kid, you can get to the front of the line and bring the rest of the family. It's not supposed to be that you just hire a cripple and go to the front of the line.

Your response sounds like "Hmmm... coito objects to this... I must find a way to not agree with coito..." LOL :{D
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Maybe you are right. It's teh free market!
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 15, 2013 9:58 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Shouldn't that be "Black (as Obama) Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney" - that would emphasise teh ebulz. :tea:
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 15, 2013 9:59 am

Animavore wrote:Here's what the rulez say.
Some attractions at Walt Disney World Resort have auxiliary entrances for Guests with disabilities. These are intended to offer Guests in wheelchairs or with trained service animals a more convenient entrance to the attraction. Auxiliary entrances are not intended to bypass waiting lines. Guests with disabilities and up to five members of their party may enter through these entrances. The rest of the party should use the main entrance.
Nothing about the party having to consist of family members.

I'm not sure if the article is correct instating that they explicitly stated the disabled persons were "family members" or if this is their spin.
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 15, 2013 10:01 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Shouldn't that be "Black (as Obama) Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney" - that would emphasise teh ebulz. :tea:
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Post by Hermit » Wed May 15, 2013 10:17 am

JimC wrote:As a hypothetical, what would be the ethical position if Disneyland offered special tickets, with access to the head of any line, at a cost, say, 5 or 10 times the going rate?
That is exactly what Disneyland does. From the link CES posted: "Disney Tours offers a VIP guide and fast passes for $310 to $380 per hour." The "dicks" who are hiring handicapped guides are not breaking any rules at all - as Animavore has pointed out, and CES has failed to acknowledge. They are merely availing themselves to the exact same kind of service provided by Disneyland itself, but at a cheaper rate. It's one of those lovely things free enterprise offers.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 15, 2013 10:20 am

Of course they are breaking the rules, as I highlighted above. They are also dicks.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 15, 2013 10:20 am

As a handicapped person :cane: I think it's great that others are getting some employment. The market for dwarves in the great courts of the world has dried up.
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Post by klr » Wed May 15, 2013 11:19 am

Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:As a hypothetical, what would be the ethical position if Disneyland offered special tickets, with access to the head of any line, at a cost, say, 5 or 10 times the going rate?
That is exactly what Disneyland does. From the link CES posted: "Disney Tours offers a VIP guide and fast passes for $310 to $380 per hour." The "dicks" who are hiring handicapped guides are not breaking any rules at all - as Animavore has pointed out, and CES has failed to acknowledge. They are merely availing themselves to the exact same kind of service provided by Disneyland itself, but at a cheaper rate. It's one of those lovely things free enterprise offers.
There's a difference IMHO between premium/priority service* - where you just pay through the nose to get better/faster access - and manipulating a system that was designed for another purpose altogether**.

*As to what I think of this a practice ... that's another matter.

**Which in this case is to not discomfit handicapped people by having them wait in line for the same amount of time as everyone else. The fact that it's ultimately in Disney's own selfish interests to have a policy like this doesn't mean that it's OK for people to abuse it.
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 15, 2013 12:42 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... Vc1zItXGDP

These folks should be smacked silly.

LOL --

Rich "moms" (I don't know why they are blaming the moms -- are the dads not in on it?) -- rich "parents" are apparently hiring a service which will assign a handicapped person as a tour guide for the family at Disney. Being handicapped, he or she can get up to 6 other persons to the front of the line immediately, cutting in front of the riff-raff.

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