Dr. Kermit Gosnell Baby Slayer

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The Left forgets that Planned Parenthood started out as a Eugenics organization. If you look at their current customer base, I think they still are.

Just another example of why you shouldn't try to think.

[cronus]

America is still a young country but it is no longer a innocent one. I know this could happen anywhere, in the third world, but it would be very rare to find this kind of evil in a mature country. These poor desperate women would not be so poor and desperate here. A nation that chains women in cellars and kills babies at birth. The dregs and every week a new rotten apple until it is just a banal fact of life that America as lost it.. Should be treating it's citizenry with respect rather than keeping 40% in abject poverty to make the remainder feel rich.

[Seth]

The Left forgets that Planned Parenthood started out as a Eugenics organization. If you look at their current customer base, I think they still are.

Just another example of why you shouldn't try to think.

Really? Have you looked at their client base? Do you know that even blacks are accusing PP of "genocide" for the number of black babies they abort every year?

"It's a woman's right to have an abortion at any time, especially if they are black."

[cronus]

The Left forgets that Planned Parenthood started out as a Eugenics organization. If you look at their current customer base, I think they still are.

Just another example of why you shouldn't try to think.

Really? Have you looked at their client base? Do you know that even blacks are accusing PP of "genocide" for the number of black babies they abort every year?

"It's a woman's right to have an abortion at any time, especially if they are black."

Poacher turned gamekeeper. Gamekeepers turned poacher.

[JimC]

Abortion should be a last resort, not a planned method of birth control...

[Coito ergo sum]

. Should be treating it's citizenry with respect rather than keeping 40% in abject poverty to make the remainder feel rich.

Overall, Americans -- the rank and file, not the "rich" -- have a higher standard of living with more of almost everything in life than Europeans. Bigger and more houses, more extensive home ownership, bigger cars, more consumer goods, more discretionary funds. We do not have 40% in abject poverty. If you don't know what it is like in the US, at least stop making things up. What are the broadcasting to you people over there? I mean - 40% of America in "abject poverty" - are you flipping insane?

[Coito ergo sum]

Abortion should be a last resort, not a planned method of birth control...

Nice of you to tell women what they "should" be doing.

[Coito ergo sum]

Abortion doesn't cost much, and those that can't afford $500 for an abortion, can certainly get aid and assistance to pay for it.

Dr. Gosnell wasn't offering any particular "service" or benefit to women who couldn't afford stuff. Any woman who could pay him could also pay someone else.

Gosnell was cutting corners on a lot of things, like dumping fetuses in the trash. I think it's likely that reputable providers were unable to provide the services at a market clearing price in the area he was in.

Well, if your assertion is that he was charging women lower prices, I'd like to see the evidence for that. Much of what was described wasn't even "cutting corners" - it was almost like "saving trophies" -- the guy was cutting off their feet and storing them in jars. Cost cutting measure? Much of what is described doesn't sound at all like it would save significant money, and with abortions not being particularly expensive at market prices, what's he cutting out? 10% -- so it costs $450 instead of $500?

[Coito ergo sum]

Back on topic ...

Don't the women have a case to answer as well, or am I missing something?

You mean the women seeking abortions?

No. Gosnell lied to many of them about the age of their babies, frequently telling them they were 21 weeks or less when they were more than 24 weeks and in some cases 30 weeks. It may be that some of the mothers knew better, but it was Gosnell who performed the abortions and who told the women it was legal to do so.

30 weeks, man...at 37 weeks ish it's generally considered full term or near enough. My nephew was born premature at 30 weeks. 9 out of 10 babies born after 28 weeks survive. I can't imagine the monster he must be to take a little baby and snip its neck with surgical scissors. Chokes me up just thinking about it. Monstrous.

[Seth]

Gosnell waived his right to appeal in return for a life sentence without parole in order to avoid the death penalty.

Only problem would be if some liberal judge 20 years down the road decides to vacate the sentence for some reason.

We should have given him the needle. That's a 100 percent effective recidivism preventive.

[Seth]

Back on topic ...

Don't the women have a case to answer as well, or am I missing something?

You mean the women seeking abortions?

No. Gosnell lied to many of them about the age of their babies, frequently telling them they were 21 weeks or less when they were more than 24 weeks and in some cases 30 weeks. It may be that some of the mothers knew better, but it was Gosnell who performed the abortions and who told the women it was legal to do so.

30 weeks, man...at 37 weeks ish it's generally considered full term or near enough. My nephew was born premature at 30 weeks. 9 out of 10 babies born after 28 weeks survive. I can't imagine the monster he must be to take a little baby and snip its neck with surgical scissors. Chokes me up just thinking about it. Monstrous.

There's another one like him, albeit his facility is better kept, in Boulder, Colorado. His name is Warren Hern, and he also specializes in late-term abortions, including partial-delivery abortions where the infant is delivered feet-first until only the skull remains in the vagina, at which point the spinal cord is snipped and the dead baby fully delivered and disposed of as "medical waste." And then there's the vacuum-catheter full-term abortion procedure he does where he sticks a hard catheter up into the uterus, plunges into the full-term, delivery-ready child's skull and sucks out the brains before crushing the skull with forceps before dismembering the child and removing it from the womb.

Sadly, late term abortions are still legal in Colorado.

It's an incredibly grisly procedure.

I'd post photos but that would be too much even for me.

[Coito ergo sum]

Monstrous.

[Seth]

Monstrous.

Yes, that's what some people think. George Tiller, another late-term abortionist in Kansas was killed in 2010 by someone who felt that way.

[Animavore]

Monstrous.

I think Seth, probably deliberately, left out the part where it is mostly babies with serious fatal anomolies which are aborted and not just any old baby.

http://www.drhern.com/en/abortion-servi ... rtion.html

[Coito ergo sum]

Monstrous.

Yes, that's what some people think. George Tiller, another late-term abortionist in Kansas was killed in 2010 by someone who felt that way.

That's monstrous too.