Collector1337 wrote:Great example of why anyone who trusts the government is a moron.
I thought it was the FBI's job to harass domestic political groups of the wrong leaning though. Do I smell a turf war brewing?

Collector1337 wrote:Great example of why anyone who trusts the government is a moron.
The most important thing is that it was done specifically in order to sway the election. It's felony election fraud and corruption writ large and people must go to jail, just like the Watergate conspirators did. And that should include Obama. And maybe Biden. Guess who the Speaker of the House (the third in line) is?Coito ergo sum wrote:A liberal group, Propublica, has come out today and said that the Internal Revenue Service disclosed to them confidential information about some or many of the targeted conservative groups -- the purpose being, of course, so that the conservative groups could be targeted and smeared.
Propublica is a Progressive organization:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... ive-GroupsProPublica, which recently won its second Pulitzer Prize, initially was given millions of dollars from the Sandler Foundation to “strengthen the progressive infrastructure”–“progressive” being the code word for very liberal. In 2010, it also received a two-year contribution of $125,000 each year from the Open Society Foundations. In case you wonder where that money comes from, the OSF website is http://www.soros.org. It is a network of more than 30 international foundations, mostly funded by Soros, who has contributed more than $8 billion to those efforts.
It too is a tax exempt organization, despite being openly promoting of progressive rather than conservative views.
There is nothing wrong with them, of course, being tax exempt and promoting Progressive views. There is also nothing wrong with tax exempt tea party or conservative groups. That's the point. The conservative groups were specifically targeted by the IRS, the IRS collected data on the organizations, and that included in some cases DONOR LISTS and funding sources. Then the IRS also gave out confidential information that it gleaned to at least one outside entity -- a progressive entity -- Propublica.
And, we're expected to believe this was a lackey in Cincinnati who just went off half-cocked and did this with no direction and no partisan bias.
Be careful not to step in the bull shit, folks!
From about the middle of the article http://www.politicususa.com/republican- ... -knew.htmlSeth wrote:The most important thing is that it was done specifically in order to sway the election. It's felony election fraud and corruption writ large and people must go to jail, just like the Watergate conspirators did. And that should include Obama. And maybe Biden. Guess who the Speaker of the House (the third in line) is?Coito ergo sum wrote:A liberal group, Propublica, has come out today and said that the Internal Revenue Service disclosed to them confidential information about some or many of the targeted conservative groups -- the purpose being, of course, so that the conservative groups could be targeted and smeared.
Propublica is a Progressive organization:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... ive-GroupsProPublica, which recently won its second Pulitzer Prize, initially was given millions of dollars from the Sandler Foundation to “strengthen the progressive infrastructure”–“progressive” being the code word for very liberal. In 2010, it also received a two-year contribution of $125,000 each year from the Open Society Foundations. In case you wonder where that money comes from, the OSF website is http://www.soros.org. It is a network of more than 30 international foundations, mostly funded by Soros, who has contributed more than $8 billion to those efforts.
It too is a tax exempt organization, despite being openly promoting of progressive rather than conservative views.
There is nothing wrong with them, of course, being tax exempt and promoting Progressive views. There is also nothing wrong with tax exempt tea party or conservative groups. That's the point. The conservative groups were specifically targeted by the IRS, the IRS collected data on the organizations, and that included in some cases DONOR LISTS and funding sources. Then the IRS also gave out confidential information that it gleaned to at least one outside entity -- a progressive entity -- Propublica.
And, we're expected to believe this was a lackey in Cincinnati who just went off half-cocked and did this with no direction and no partisan bias.
Be careful not to step in the bull shit, folks!
Here’s the deal. Steve Miller was not appointed as acting commissioner until November 9th of 2012, when the Bush appointee stepped down. Republican Congressional aides told the Washington Post that the Bush appointee and Miller knew that conservatives were being targeted. Republicans and their dark money groups are making all kinds of allegations about the IRS targeting conservatives.
But we haven’t seen any proof that the IRS did more than badger these groups for documentation
We weren't scoffing at the story, but at the tedious and endless stridency of your comments.Coito ergo sum wrote:Dear scoffers,
The IRS has already apologized and admitted they were targeting conservative groups.
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ ... ml?hpid=z1
I don't mind the strident. It's the lack of perspective, the feeling that every event is looked at as something to be shoehorned into a pre-selected narrative.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:We weren't scoffing at the story, but at the tedious and endless stridency of your comments.Coito ergo sum wrote:Dear scoffers,
The IRS has already apologized and admitted they were targeting conservative groups.
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ ... ml?hpid=z1
It is odd, considering the fact that the IRS was only doing so for groups with political sounding names like "Tea Party" and "Freedom" and other names obviously connected with conservative causes, not to mention groups into teaching about the Constitution and civil rights.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Strange, the IRS gets a flurry of applications for tax exempt status from groups with political sounding names and tries to verify they're legit. Odd, very odd.
Who (to be fair) could have been made pointedly aware which side his bread is buttered...Robert_S wrote:Under a Bush appointee Seth.
Could have, if...JimC wrote:Who (to be fair) could have been made pointedly aware which side his bread is buttered...Robert_S wrote:Under a Bush appointee Seth.
If there is clear political bias in the selection of groups to be investigated, as CES and Seth are alleging, then heads should roll...
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