Dr. Kermit Gosnell Baby Slayer
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Dr. Kermit Gosnell Baby Slayer
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 14831.html
US abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell guilty of murdering three babies
A Philadelphia doctor has been found guilty of first-degree murder in relation to the deaths of three babies born alive during illegal, late-term abortions at his squalid back-street clinic.
Prosecutors say they will seek the death penalty for Dr Kermit Gosnell, who was acquitted of murdering a fourth baby, but also found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the death of 41-year-old woman, who died from an overdose of drugs administered during an abortion.
When the accepted procedure of injecting drugs into the mother failed to terminate the foetuses in utero, the prosecution claimed Dr Gosnell would deliver the babies alive, and then kill them by cutting their spinal cords with surgical scissors. However, the 72-year-old’s defence team argued that there had been no live births at the clinic.
(continued, one bad apple....or the truth of Doctors loving to play G-d?)
US abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell guilty of murdering three babies
A Philadelphia doctor has been found guilty of first-degree murder in relation to the deaths of three babies born alive during illegal, late-term abortions at his squalid back-street clinic.
Prosecutors say they will seek the death penalty for Dr Kermit Gosnell, who was acquitted of murdering a fourth baby, but also found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the death of 41-year-old woman, who died from an overdose of drugs administered during an abortion.
When the accepted procedure of injecting drugs into the mother failed to terminate the foetuses in utero, the prosecution claimed Dr Gosnell would deliver the babies alive, and then kill them by cutting their spinal cords with surgical scissors. However, the 72-year-old’s defence team argued that there had been no live births at the clinic.
(continued, one bad apple....or the truth of Doctors loving to play G-d?)
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Sounds like we should cut all funding to abortions, Planned Parenthood etc. That way we would cut the huge baby shortage of the country that leaves all kinds of white couples without babies.When authorities raided Dr Gosnell’s clinic in 2010, they found it filthy and stinking of urine. Foetuses were stored in bottles, instruments were unsterilised; there was blood on the floor, and even a flea-infested cat. The under-regulated facility served mostly underprivileged women who sought cheap, late-term abortions.
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You honestly think this was a funding issue?Tero wrote:Sounds like we should cut all funding to abortions, Planned Parenthood etc. That way we would cut the huge baby shortage of the country that leaves all kinds of white couples without babies.When authorities raided Dr Gosnell’s clinic in 2010, they found it filthy and stinking of urine. Foetuses were stored in bottles, instruments were unsterilised; there was blood on the floor, and even a flea-infested cat. The under-regulated facility served mostly underprivileged women who sought cheap, late-term abortions.
I mean -- this occurred when Planned Parenthood is funded out the wazoo and abortions have been funded more than ever.
This really was a disgusting, heart-wrenching case. He was convicted of snipping the spinal chords of delivered babies who were like 30+ weeks in gestation. They were abortions well after six months. SIX MONTHS. Babies are routinely born premature at seven months. He took squirming babies, at least one of which had started to cry (according to witness testimony) and snipped necks with surgical scissors.
I am pro-choice, to be clear on that. But, for the love of noGod. There has to be a fucking limit. And, making light of baby-killing seems a tad bit in poor taste.
Let's not forget that in the civilized countries in the world - you know, the western European countries who are civilized -- they too have limits on abortions at around 20 or 21 weeks. So, abortions at the date range Gosnell was convicted for wold also be illegal in civilized countries like the UK.
But, the images in this case are shocking. He killed what were viable or nearly viable little fetuses or babies. Disgusting. Shocking.
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Na abortion up to birth in the UK if the baby/foetus has a serious handicap (not defined) or threatens the life of the woman, in fact passive euthanasia is allowed after birth in these cases too (ie the baby is given no treatment apart from perhaps pain relief). Through that law does need tightening up somewhatLet's not forget that in the civilized countries in the world - you know, the western European countries who are civilized -- they too have limits on abortions at around 20 or 21 weeks. So, abortions at the date range Gosnell was convicted for wold also be illegal in civilized countries like the UK.
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You know how many little niggers those abortion docs rid us of? Yeah, thought so [/Tyrannical]Tero wrote:Sounds like we should cut all funding to abortions, Planned Parenthood etc. That way we would cut the huge baby shortage of the country that leaves all kinds of white couples without babies.When authorities raided Dr Gosnell’s clinic in 2010, they found it filthy and stinking of urine. Foetuses were stored in bottles, instruments were unsterilised; there was blood on the floor, and even a flea-infested cat. The under-regulated facility served mostly underprivileged women who sought cheap, late-term abortions.
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Dude - that's the law in the US too, including Pennsylvania. But, there are limits.MrJonno wrote:Na abortion up to birth in the UK if the baby/foetus has a serious handicap (not defined) or threatens the life of the woman, in fact passive euthanasia is allowed after birth in these cases too (ie the baby is given no treatment apart from perhaps pain relief). Through that law does need tightening up somewhatLet's not forget that in the civilized countries in the world - you know, the western European countries who are civilized -- they too have limits on abortions at around 20 or 21 weeks. So, abortions at the date range Gosnell was convicted for wold also be illegal in civilized countries like the UK.
And, the law in the UK is stricter against abortion than in Pennsylvania. We've been through that on another thread. This is not about early term abortions or mid-term abortions. This case was about late term abortions where the issue of the life or health of the mother was not an issue.
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I was not commenting on the evil doctor, merely the clueless poor women seeking late term abortions.
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On that issue, that's why I'm in favor of contraception, and the morning after pill. Hand 'em out like chiclets. And if that doesn't fail, easy access to early abortions.Tero wrote:I was not commenting on the evil doctor, merely the clueless poor women seeking late term abortions.
At some point, though, there has to be a limit. I feel bad for clueless women seeking late term abortions too, but if you've got all the options from tubes tied, to condoms, to the pill, to IUDs, to implanted contraceptives, to swallowing, to the morning after pill, to Plan B, an abortion in the first month, to an abortion in the 2d month to an abortion in the 3rd month... I mean, at some point, there does seem to be some good reason to say -- sorry, but you're going to have to let this one live, barring a threat to the life of the mother.
And, assuming the women must be "clueless" and "poor" is a bit denigrating to women, isn't it? If they're poor, they'd have their abortion covered for fre from a variety of sources. If they're not poor they can shell out a few hundred bucks. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of women are more than capable of handling their uteruses.
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No. "Passive euthanasia" - letting the baby die of starvation or thirst - is not legal in the U.S. That's an artifact of the UK health single payer health care system.Coito ergo sum wrote:Dude - that's the law in the US too, including Pennsylvania. But, there are limits.MrJonno wrote:Na abortion up to birth in the UK if the baby/foetus has a serious handicap (not defined) or threatens the life of the woman, in fact passive euthanasia is allowed after birth in these cases too (ie the baby is given no treatment apart from perhaps pain relief). Through that law does need tightening up somewhatLet's not forget that in the civilized countries in the world - you know, the western European countries who are civilized -- they too have limits on abortions at around 20 or 21 weeks. So, abortions at the date range Gosnell was convicted for wold also be illegal in civilized countries like the UK.
Granted, Obamacare has put us on that road.
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I think it's a funding issue. Planned Parenthood has been getting more funding from government in return for deemphasizing abortions in favor of generalized women's health care. As a result, there is no longer any efficient way to help fund abortions for the poor, and people like Dr. Gosnell step in instead.Coito ergo sum wrote:You honestly think this was a funding issue?Tero wrote:Sounds like we should cut all funding to abortions, Planned Parenthood etc. That way we would cut the huge baby shortage of the country that leaves all kinds of white couples without babies.When authorities raided Dr Gosnell’s clinic in 2010, they found it filthy and stinking of urine. Foetuses were stored in bottles, instruments were unsterilised; there was blood on the floor, and even a flea-infested cat. The under-regulated facility served mostly underprivileged women who sought cheap, late-term abortions.
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The Left forgets that Planned Parenthood started out as a Eugenics organization. If you look at their current customer base, I think they still are.
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Which makes Svartalf's disgusting comment more true that he'd like to think.Tyrannical wrote:The Left forgets that Planned Parenthood started out as a Eugenics organization. If you look at their current customer base, I think they still are.
There's a reason that they locate the majority of their abortion facilities in low-income neighborhoods, and it ain't altruism.
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Devil of deep blue sea. They can starve and live wretched lives if born or be terminated hideously before drawing their first breath. 

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False dilemma fallacy. Those aren't the only two choices by a long shot.Scrumple wrote:Devil of deep blue sea. They can starve and live wretched lives if born or be terminated hideously before drawing their first breath.
After all, Barack Obama grew up a po' lill' black boy and look what it got him.
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Yeah. There's always Chicago when they grow up and the chance to learn a dis-honest trade in politics or something?Seth wrote:False dilemma fallacy. Those aren't the only two choices by a long shot.Scrumple wrote:Devil of deep blue sea. They can starve and live wretched lives if born or be terminated hideously before drawing their first breath.
After all, Barack Obama grew up a po' lill' black boy and look what it got him.

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