The holocaust caused by reason: Fox News!
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Fucking retarded brain farts.
In passing, just to throw in more fucking moronic mental shit the commentator says that original sin is proven by three thousand years of empirical evidence! ARGGGHHH!
They really do: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... eason.html
In passing, just to throw in more fucking moronic mental shit the commentator says that original sin is proven by three thousand years of empirical evidence! ARGGGHHH!
They really do: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... eason.html
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The danger is the rational mind is clever and sure of itself and yet cannot know everything. The existence of Nazi Science was a byproduct of rational thinking and whilst The Holocaust was a act of absolute barbarity it's organisation would not have been possible without the collusion of countless rational intellects at the time. Eugenics may be seen as wrong in hindsight yet at the time it was at the very pinnacle of scientific rational thought. Not saying we should dissolve into primitive thinking in order to prevent it happening again....there is a over-population crisis afterall. 

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Countless rational intellects colluded in the democracies. You have no argument.Scrumple wrote:The danger is the rational mind is clever and sure of itself and yet cannot know everything. The existence of Nazi Science was a byproduct of rational thinking and whilst The Holocaust was a act of absolute barbarity it's organisation would not have been possible without the collusion of countless rational intellects at the time. Eugenics may be seen as wrong in hindsight yet at the time it was at the very pinnacle of scientific rational thought. Not saying we should dissolve into primitive thinking in order to prevent it happening again....there is a over-population crisis afterall.
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Yes; because when you're loosing a war, nothing could be more reasonable than expending vast amounts of time, labour, organisational effort and resources into rounding-up countless non-combatant civilians within your areas of control, and sending them hundreds of miles to be slaughtered on an industrial scale, purely because they belong (or at least are deemed to belong) to groups your political movement felt the need to scapegoat and demonise in order to inspire the public hysteria needed to consolidate it's grip on power to begin with.
The Nazi leadership were too unreasonable to even recognise the cynical wisdom that for a regime such as theirs, killing the chosen scapegoat is akin to killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
The Nazi leadership were too unreasonable to even recognise the cynical wisdom that for a regime such as theirs, killing the chosen scapegoat is akin to killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

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The organisation was a byproduct of reason. Even IBM got a slice of the pie. And the prejudice fueled motive came from below as much as above.Horwood Beer-Master wrote:Yes; because when you're loosing a war, nothing could be more reasonable than expending vast amounts of time, labour, organisational effort and resources into rounding-up countless non-combatant civilians within your areas of control, and sending them hundreds of miles to be slaughtered on an industrial scale, purely because they belong (or at least are deemed to belong) to groups your political movement felt the need to scapegoat and demonise in order to inspire the public hysteria needed to consolidate it's grip on power to begin with.
The Nazi leadership were too unreasonable to even recognise the cynical wisdom that for a regime such as theirs, killing the chosen scapegoat is akin to killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
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The reason for the holocaust is rarely discussed or even thought about. Jews were seen primarily loyal to each other, and not so much to their host country.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
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It was also a "byproduct" of biology. Can't do much if you're not alive, can you.Scrumple wrote:The organisation was a byproduct of reason. Even IBM got a slice of the pie. And the prejudice fueled motive came from below as much as above.
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And all this time I thought it was caused by assholes. Silly me.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." —Voltaire
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Blame shifting in pursuit of absolution, as old as the Bible.Seabass wrote:And all this time I thought it was caused by assholes. Silly me.
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What was used to kill the Jews was gas mostly and this was a byproduct of scientific thinking. I don't buy into it being a few madmen at the top hypnotizing a nation of fools. The Germans are far too smart for that. The monsters can think clean, this is the lesson of history. 

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You got your reason up your ass, Scrump. You are using a logic chain made out of bit of paper stuck together with spit.Scrumple wrote:What was used to kill the Jews was gas mostly and this was a byproduct of scientific thinking. I don't buy into it being a few madmen at the top hypnotizing a nation of fools. The Germans are far too smart for that. The monsters can think clean, this is the lesson of history.
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"The holocaust caused by reason: Fox News!" Any suprise that Faux News is in favor of unreason?
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BTW, using Faux News' own logic, reason ended WWII, so reason is the cause of the end of the Holocaust.
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I'm still right though. You don't see the tragic irony when the US is killing countless innocent civilians in scientific 'clinical' drone strikes whilst saying what you did?Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You got your reason up your ass, Scrump. You are using a logic chain made out of bit of paper stuck together with spit.Scrumple wrote:What was used to kill the Jews was gas mostly and this was a byproduct of scientific thinking. I don't buy into it being a few madmen at the top hypnotizing a nation of fools. The Germans are far too smart for that. The monsters can think clean, this is the lesson of history.

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It's actually because certain people are left-handed, Scrumpled. FACT.Scrumple wrote:I'm still right though. You don't see the tragic irony when the US is killing countless innocent civilians in scientific 'clinical' drone strikes whilst saying what you did?Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You got your reason up your ass, Scrump. You are using a logic chain made out of bit of paper stuck together with spit.Scrumple wrote:What was used to kill the Jews was gas mostly and this was a byproduct of scientific thinking. I don't buy into it being a few madmen at the top hypnotizing a nation of fools. The Germans are far too smart for that. The monsters can think clean, this is the lesson of history.
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