Boston Marathon hit by explosions

[pErvinalia]

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[Coito ergo sum]

Don't change the goal posts. You fucked up. Be a man.

Lol, fail. You fucked up. Everyone can read exactly where you fucked up. Are you going to man up and admit it, or just look even sillier?

The fail is your failure to comprehend English.

[pErvinalia]

Boston bomber Tamerlan sat home collecting WELFARE benefits while plotting to bomb America (and his wife worked 80 hours a week)

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, received welfare up until 2012
His wife Katherine worked up to 80 hours a week as a home healthcare worker while Tamerlan stayed at home
The Tsarnaev brothers received state aid as children, when their parents relied on welfare benefits after immigrating to the U.S.
Dzhokhar, 19, sold pot to make spending money at college, friends say

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2RRxxKqWg

Now we know why all of Dzhokhar's friends thought he was such a great guy.

They must have committed welfare fraud, because the wife working 80 hours a week as a home healthcare provider would put them over the threshold for collecting welfare. Either that, or the system in Massachusetts is woefully underpoliced.

[pErvinalia]

Bring this back to the scumbag marathon bombers -- we have a health 26 year old man who sat at home being supported by his spouse who worked, so the article says "up to" 80 hours a week. He apparently lied to get welfare, food stamps and the like

[pErvinalia]

Benefit fraud is wrong just saying there are far better targets to go for.

Well, when the question was about this 26 year old healthy, able-bodied dickwad fraudulently claiming benefits while he used his time to get all Jihadized and then plot and plan a bombing, there really aren't any.

[Coito ergo sum]

Benefit fraud is wrong just saying there are far better targets to go for.

Well, when the question was about this 26 year old healthy, able-bodied dickwad fraudulently claiming benefits while he used his time to get all Jihadized and then plot and plan a bombing, there really aren't any.

He collected welfare benefits until 2012. He didn't just start getting Jihadized in 2012.

What point are you trying to make? That after years of collecting government benefits they finally cut him off, and only then in 2012, did he decide to become Jihadized?

[pErvinalia]

Man, you claimed that they were welfare cheats. Then you went on a spittle flecked rant about welfare cheats. It's been pointed out to you NUMEROUS times that they weren't benefit cheats. How fucking hard is this to grasp?

[Coito ergo sum]

Man, you claimed that they were welfare cheats.

Looks like they were.

Then you went on a spittle flecked rant about welfare cheats. It's been pointed out to you NUMEROUS times that they weren't benefit cheats. How fucking hard is this to grasp?

Yes, I don't like people who commit fraud.

They were welfare cheats. They cash and food stamps and Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, and it seems pretty clear they were not in need. The guy's wife worked, and that didn't just start happening in 2012. And, there was no notification given to the State of the extended trip to Russia for 6 months or more. If he was out of Massachusetts for that time, he was not entitled to benefits.

A perfectly health, able-bodied guy who has the ability to box and do UFC fighting, and can spend significant time educating himself on Jihadi activities, is certainly capable of working at Starbucks. He's a welfare cheat. Fuck him. And fuck everyone like him.

It has not been pointed out that they were not benefit cheats. It was pointed out that they were FINALLY cut off of welfare (not necessarily other benefits, which are separate programs) in 2012. That doesn't say they weren't welfare cheats.

[pErvinalia]

So they are guilty until proven innocent? Are you really trying to argue this point?

Basically, it's YOUR view that they were benefit cheats.

What the fuck this has to do with them blowing innocent people up is anyone's guess. It's not like being on welfare (whether they were cheating it or not) makes them any more of a bad person. They fucking blew people up, Coit. Welfare is SO far from the major issue here. Get a fucking grip.

[Coito ergo sum]

So they are guilty until proven innocent? Are you really trying to argue this point?

Basically, it's YOUR view that they were benefit cheats.

The only view I can espouse is my view. But, since he collected while out of the country for 6 months, then he certainly committed fraud for at least that period.

What the fuck this has to do with them blowing innocent people up is anyone's guess. It's not like being on welfare (whether they were cheating it or not) makes them any more of a bad person.

Sure it does. Able bodied adult male, engaged in kick-boxing, with their own computers and smart phones, spending inordinate amounts of time engaged in Jihadi activities, collecting welfare, section 8 housing, cash grants and food stamps -- well -- that's a deadbeat and a low-life. Yes, he's a bad person. IN MY VIEW.

They fucking blew people up, Coit. Welfare is SO far from the major issue here. Get a fucking grip.

I wasn't the first one to bring it up. It's relevant. Just because you find it distasteful doesn't mean it is outside the realm of discussion.

And, railing against the country one lives in, and plotting violent acts because it sucks so bad, while siphoning off the public tit -- well, it strikes most folks as a bit off.

[pErvinalia]

You're not getting it. It's "off" regardless of whether they were suckling at the tit. Welfare simply has nothing to do with the 4 (or however many it ended up being) people who were killed.

[Coito ergo sum]

You're not getting it. It's "off" regardless of whether they were suckling at the tit. Welfare simply has nothing to do with the 4 (or however many it ended up being) people who were killed.

It has to do with the people doing the killing.

[JimC]

The former mayor of London took to Press TV, an Iranian state-run network, recently to express his disdain for the Bush White House and his assurance that the Boston Marathon bombings were brought upon the United States because of its injustices abroad.
“Very often, people get incredibly angry about injustices that they see,” Ken Livingstone said Friday, according to a transcript by the Middle East Media Research Institute, a nonprofit. “They would have been reading about the torture at Guantanamo Bay, at Baghram airbase. They would have read stuff about how, I think it is 54 different countries secretly collaborated with America for this rendition — people being snatched off streets taken to be tortured, because the Bush regime believed that they were all potential terrorists.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z2RwdwPNqD
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What a douche.

If he was truly implying that the victims in Boston "had it coming" or "it's only justice" because of US actions elsewhere, then sure, he was being an insensitive douche.

However, we shouldn't be prevented from making a dispassionate analysis of US and other western countries' military actions, either in the sense of criticising their ethical basis (should that be justified), or finding them to be a causal factor in the radicalisation of islamic communities.

[klr]

That's the sort of nonsense I'd expect from Galloway, not that "Red Ken" hasn't committed his share of gaffes in the past.

He was mayor of London during the 7/7 bombings, when of course he also stood up and said the same thing about the UK. Yeah, right ...

[Coito ergo sum]

He'd say that the 7/7 attacks were caused by the Bush Administration, too.