Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:29 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Posts: 143326 - lame trolling attempts = ?

You probably aren't too old to try practicing rational discourse if you worked at it. Point, counter point instead of point, troll attempt.
Insane, demonstrably. Have you ever tried not being a bigot? You weren't born that way, it's a lifestyle choice. And a stupid one.
it is an intellectual choice based on science, facts, and statistics. Though choice is probably a poor word, as I could no more choose to be non-racist as you could choose to be a young-Earth creationist.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by cronus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:30 pm

laklak wrote:I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Would that make any difference though? :coffee:
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:40 pm

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laklak wrote:I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Would that make any difference though? :coffee:
Hiroshima and Nagasaki recovered from an atomic blast because the populace rebuilt it. Detroit's problem is that the populace is continuously trying to destroy the city.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:44 pm

Tyrannical wrote:it is an intellectual choice based on science, facts, and statistics.
18th Century science.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by laklak » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:52 pm

Scrumple wrote:
laklak wrote:I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Would that make any difference though? :coffee:
Nah, I just want to push the Boom-Boom Button.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by cronus » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:58 pm

laklak wrote:
Scrumple wrote:
laklak wrote:I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Would that make any difference though? :coffee:
Nah, I just want to push the Boom-Boom Button.
Try Viagra first? usually impotence issues at the heart of wanting to push the Boom-Boom Button.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:31 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:it is an intellectual choice based on science, facts, and statistics.
18th Century science.
Early 20th century science proved it when they showed that IQ tests that Blacks scored lower, and that this deficit correlated with White admixture.
The earth is flat, the universe orbits the Earth, and Blacks are equal in average intellectual capacity. We even have our own version of the Inquisition when it comes to questioning Black equality. Eventually science and facts will overcome the non-sense of equality.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Robert_S » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:30 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:it is an intellectual choice based on science, facts, and statistics.
18th Century science.
Early 20th century science proved it when they showed that IQ tests that Blacks scored lower, and that this deficit correlated with White admixture.
The earth is flat, the universe orbits the Earth, and Blacks are equal in average intellectual capacity. We even have our own version of the Inquisition when it comes to questioning Black equality. Eventually science and facts will overcome the non-sense of equality.
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What was the quality of education that black children were given compared to white children? What was the educational that their parents and grandparents received?

You harp on this subject because you want it to be true. You want an unearned signifier of superiority in the form of your skin colour.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Audley Strange » Fri May 03, 2013 6:31 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote: Well, the centralization of population into urban areas has increased, not decreased.
Yes, however as I say urban living is centralised round the marketplace, which is becoming increasingly superfluous and non cost efficient. Thus there is no need for urban without it, only suburban, which will be the next stage, somewhere between rural and urban. Except obviously in developing economies who still need mass employment.
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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri May 03, 2013 6:58 pm

Audley Strange wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote: Well, the centralization of population into urban areas has increased, not decreased.
Yes, however as I say urban living is centralised round the marketplace, which is becoming increasingly superfluous and non cost efficient. Thus there is no need for urban without it, only suburban, which will be the next stage, somewhere between rural and urban. Except obviously in developing economies who still need mass employment.
No need other than people may enjoy living in cities in close proximity to cultural and entertainment options, family and employment. How is the marketplace becoming increasingly superfluous and non-cost-efficient, though? Not sure I'm seeing evidence for that.

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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:43 pm

Write in candidate gets support in Detroit --
Duggan waged an unlikely write-in campaign and said observers are saying 97 percent of the write-in ballots were written correctly. With city election officials checking write-in ballots in all 614 precincts, “Mike Duggan“ had 44,395 votes.

“Duggan” with no first name was the next most popular listing, followed by “Mike Duggen,” “Michael Duggan,” “Mike Duggon,” “M Duggan” and “Mike Duggin.” There was a ballot cast for “the white guy Mike Duggan.” Taken together, the ballots indicate many of the write-in votes were expected to eventually go for Duggan, the observers said.


From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2013 ... z2bIoAT0pj

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Re: Detroit: The Shape of Things To Come?

Post by cronus » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:18 pm

People of all races lived in Detroit but only whitey had the means and connections to relocate when the citys industrial base collapsed in the seventies. It appears blacks have caused the social collapse but really they are victims of it for the most part. The primary cause was Detroit produced gas guzzlers no one wanted after the oil shocks of the early seventies. Like the coming collapse of the movie state it is whites who'll relocate and it'll appear hispanics caused the social collapse there - really it was Youtube and a vastly widened media world that left California like a parched desert it always was/will be. :coffee:
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