Project glass - new and cool or Big Brotherish?

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:50 pm

Făkünamę wrote:Considering that we're the most adaptive, intelligent, and innovative species on the planet not to mention the added bonus of being (mostly) hairless and having sweat glands, I'd say we enjoy the greatest chances of survival of all the animal species of living through and after any sort of catastrophe you can imagine.
So, no need to get some of our eggs out of this one basket?

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:51 pm

Cormac wrote:
Scrumple wrote:Humans are going to die out. This age of progress is a empty promise and every critical issue is pushed onto the next generation until hey presto a generation with insurmountable issues and then civilization collapse. The few survivors will have to deal with a unpredictable climate and living in the ruins of all that has gone, with chemical hazards and everything. I don't know why I even argue the case when it is self evident from the record of other great apes that dying out is very common.

The universe is a volatile place, and it produces many phenomena lethal to squashy fleshy things like humans with great regularity as it races through entropy to get to the lowest energy state that it can.

Yep, sooner or later, humanity is highly likely to be exterminated.

So what?

What is the appropriate response? To Marvin up and moan and Cassandra about it incessantly? How boring.

We are extremely lucky to be able to.experience this marvelous universe. We should try not to waste it by being stuck in a permanent existential crisis about it all.
The appropriate response is to further science, and reach out to the solar system and hopefully the galaxy after that.

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Post by Jason » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:03 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Făkünamę wrote:Considering that we're the most adaptive, intelligent, and innovative species on the planet not to mention the added bonus of being (mostly) hairless and having sweat glands, I'd say we enjoy the greatest chances of survival of all the animal species of living through and after any sort of catastrophe you can imagine.
So, no need to get some of our eggs out of this one basket?
That depends. I don't believe it is strictly necessary to do so, besides being part of the human endeavour to exponentially reproduce and spread to every available area, and I don't buy into the doom theories, but I'm in favour of colonizing other planets regardless because curiosity and the desire to explore, experience, and discover new things are also part of human nature.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:04 pm

The galactic natives may decide they want our eggs to stay where they are. Would you want a human moving in next door?
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Post by cronus » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:09 pm

Most technology is now inward looking and this glass is the ultimate in drawing a curtain between the 'real deal' out there and the thinking brain. Eventually the technology may advance enough to give a impression of standing on other worlds more vivid and 'interesting' than the real thing. What then? What then? I've seen the future. A rubbish heap with beggars dreaming they are in paradise....I could well be wrong but at this moment I've gotta be right. :coffee:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:22 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:The galactic natives may decide they want our eggs to stay where they are. Would you want a human moving in next door?

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:26 pm

Scrumple wrote:Most technology is now inward looking and this glass is the ultimate in drawing a curtain between the 'real deal' out there and the thinking brain. Eventually the technology may advance enough to give a impression of standing on other worlds more vivid and 'interesting' than the real thing. What then? What then? I've seen the future. A rubbish heap with beggars dreaming they are in paradise....I could well be wrong but at this moment I've gotta be right. :coffee:

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Post by Mysturji » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:36 pm

Sorry for re-railing this thread, but I think that while the potential for misuse by the authorities is there, it's more "little brother" than "Big Brother".
If only Senior Party Members and Thought Police were allowed to have them, then Orwellian fears would be justified, but
a. like mobile phones, when significant numbers of people are using those things, who could seriously be arsed (let alone able) to monitor all of them?
b. Surveillance is the domain of authoritarian types. "Sousveillance" scares the fuck out of them. Who watches the watchers? WE DO! :irate:
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Post by MiM » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:51 pm

Mysturji wrote:Sorry for re-railing this thread, but I think that while the potential for misuse by the authorities is there, it's more "little brother" than "Big Brother".
If only Senior Party Members and Thought Police were allowed to have them, then Orwellian fears would be justified, but
a. like mobile phones, when significant numbers of people are using those things, who could seriously be arsed (let alone able) to monitor all of them?
b. Surveillance is the domain of authoritarian types. "Sousveillance" scares the fuck out of them. Who watches the watchers? WE DO! :irate:
For these and other reasons... WANT! :awesomekid:
You don't need to monitor all of them, at least not all the time. It is plenty enough if you can monitor the ones you want to get in trouble for a limited time, even better if you can read their Ratz posts from the last three years, or so.

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Post by JimC » Wed May 01, 2013 9:11 am

Is it wrong of me to want to implant all our students with a machine readable chip so I don't have to mark the roll anymore?

Also, an implant into their pain centre...

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Post by Mysturji » Wed May 01, 2013 10:45 am

JimC wrote:Is it wrong of me to want to implant all our students with a machine readable chip so I don't have to mark the roll anymore?

Also, an implant into their pain centre...

(just a mild jolt, nothing freaky...)
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Re: Project glass - new and cool or Big Brotherish?

Post by Hermit » Wed May 01, 2013 10:47 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:All we need to perpetuate the species and its civilisation after any catastrophe is a handful of survivors, one of whom can read, and an intact library. :tea:
After any catastrophe the libraries will be used for fuel and the one survivor who can read will be either hunted to death by followers of cults that swiftly develop in the post-apocalyptic time, or actually become the leader of one. The next several hundred years will make the previous dark age look enlightened.

Indeed, we need to spread to other rocks. There, we will re-enact our history of genocide, rape, exploitation and so on in kaleidoscopic fashion. It's something to look forward to, yes? If not for each of us currently living, but for future generations?

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Re: Project glass - new and cool or Big Brotherish?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:37 pm

Nancy Pelosi is unnerved at press conference by the Google glasses.... http://cnsnews.com/news/article/reporte ... conference

She asks if the glasses are filming her.... lol

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