Boston Marathon hit by explosions

[Wumbologist]

If you think that the tragedy of lives and limbs lost today is at all lessened, or justified, or excused by any sort of geopolitical tit-for-tat, you are part of the problem.

[hadespussercats]

The Boston Globe is directing people to this feed for updates: http://live.boston.com/Event/Live_blog_ ... ley_Square

[JimC]

There are members here that live in that city and many more that know people that do.

I live in the Boston metro area, and mistermack is exactly correct. The U.S. is constantly blowing up civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen, and there's scarcely a peep from the west. Heck, today was tax day, we just helped pay for it. One attack on us, though, and there's an uproar.

That difference in media coverage may well be there, and also be an issue worth reflecting on, perhaps when the dust settles.

However, I can understand those members who regard the way that mistermack brought it up in this thread as callous in the extreme...

[rasetsu]

I simply don't know what to say. I read the thread at AF before coming here. I was going to make some comment about "sick people," except I realized I probably belong in the same box. I remember on 9/11 saying that the days when Americans had the luxury of only hearing about terrorist attacks "over there" had come to an end. It's all too true. The pond is indeed a pond nowadays. I've occasionally reflected that terrorism is a natural choice for marginalized, powerless political groups. I wonder if it ever accomplishes their goals. Did bin Laden accomplish what he wanted with the twin towers? The bombings in Spain? Etc.? Does that calculation ever really enter into the mind of a terrorist, or is it just an expression of rage, hate, despair, or some other maelstrom?

[cronus]

Like suicide it is all down to opportunity. There is a vast amount of information on the web about making lethal stuff. High railings are better at preventing suicide than therapy. Likewise terror attacks are best prevented by controlling the supply of information, corrupt and unworkable bomb-making recipes are likely to better at terror prevention than understanding the motives of idiots.

[Cormac]

The people of Boston blatantly financed the IRA bombs for many years.

Now they know what it feels like. Shame it's always the wrong ones that get hurt. That's what bombs are like.

That attitude is precisely the attitude that allowed IRA members to justify bombing innocent civilians in pubs and on high streets across the UK. "Well, they supported and financed British Colonial terrorism in Ireland for 800 years. Including that child in the buggy there".

It was stupid and idiotic then, and it is stupid and idiotic now.

[Cormac]

The people of Boston blatantly financed the IRA bombs for many years.

Now they know what it feels like. Shame it's always the wrong ones that get hurt. That's what bombs are like.

That attitude is precisely the attitude that allowed IRA members to justify bombing innocent civilians in pubs and on high streets across the UK. "Well, they supported and financed British Colonial terrorism in Ireland for 800 years Including that child in the buggy there".

It was stupid and idiotic then, and it is stupid and idiotic now.

[Cormac]

This is EXACTLY the time, because when america is dishing it out, they NEVER stop to ask if THEY would like it done to them.

It's the simplest lesson, that mothers teach their kids. If YOU wouldn't like it, don't do it to others.

Now they know, perhaps they will think twice about exporting this shit to other people, in the future.

Probably not, though.

THEY ... THEY ... THEY ... THEY ...

People do not have collective responsibility in matters such as these.

Take that broken record somewhere else. As an Irish person who never had the minutest sympathy for the IRA and all its works (quite the opposite in fact), I'm finding your monomania on this subject to be pretty tiresome at best.

[Cormac]

If you think that the tragedy of lives and limbs lost today is at all lessened, or justified, or excused by any sort of geopolitical tit-for-tat, you are part of the problem.

[Hermit]

We all just think you're a troll.

Speaking for myself, Mistermack is one of several contributors to this forum, most of whose opinions I disagree with, and many of which irritate and annoy me, but offhand I can think of only one member whose sole motivation for posting was to troll. Though your sentiments undoubtedly appeal to a number of ratz - perhaps even a substantial number - please do not presume to be speaking on behalf all of us without formal authority to do so. You certainly don't have mine.

On topic: It won't surprise me in the least if this bloody tragedy will eventually be discovered to be the work of an utter nutter, perhaps with the help of one or several feeble-minded acolytes.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I simply don't know what to say. I read the thread at AF before coming here. I was going to make some comment about "sick people," except I realized I probably belong in the same box. I remember on 9/11 saying that the days when Americans had the luxury of only hearing about terrorist attacks "over there" had come to an end. It's all too true. The pond is indeed a pond nowadays. I've occasionally reflected that terrorism is a natural choice for marginalized, powerless political groups. I wonder if it ever accomplishes their goals. Did bin Laden accomplish what he wanted with the twin towers? The bombings in Spain? Etc.? Does that calculation ever really enter into the mind of a terrorist, or is it just an expression of rage, hate, despair, or some other maelstrom?

You seem to have forgotten Oklahoma City and Tim McVeigh. And we've had domestic terrorists like the KKK here for a long time.

[pErvinalia]

Probably the second status update on this that I saw on facebook this morning was claiming a "false flag" operation. I was watching the live press conference with the Mayor/FBI/AG's etc and the first question they got was "false flag". FFS, the internet, while responsible for a lot of good things, is also responsible for a lot of crap.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Probably the second status update on this that I saw on facebook this morning was claiming a "false flag" operation. I was watching the live press conference with the Mayor/FBI/AG's etc and the first question they got was "false flag". FFS, the internet, while responsible for a lot of good things, is also responsible for a lot of crap.

Godlikeproductions.com:

Boston Marathon 4/15/2013 HOAX 100 percent. No one Died , Hurt or "bombed".
No one was hurt or killed or "bombed" STOP IT and LOOK.

Please start looking and STOP taking what you think you see for truth.

What did happen. A bomb? well no a smoke bomb yes..but that's it 2 smoke bombs and a Hollywood act for you Doom Tard LIE lovers to Morn weep and Whale over.

You Sick Dead cults scum bags.

THIS IS A HOAX!!!!
Just like sandy Hook(hoax

[pErvinalia]

If it was domestic terrorism, and somehow organized, a better target like a government building, like the OK City bombing, would have been picked.

Since there are very few casualties, at least that we know of so far, the bombing was executed fairly incompetently. If it was real terrorism, it would have been a much bigger bomb and higher value target more likely.

I mean who targets a marathon? Talk about pointless. Very poor choice of target if you're trying to make a point of any kind.

I haven't seen any news or updates on this blast for about 7 hours now, so I don't know what the thinking is, but I wonder if it was a case that it was an easy target (with lots of people/publicity) because of the fact that no one would think anyone would bother targeting a marathon.

[cronus]

Then if you've a bio-weapon that is precisely the kind of mayhem necessary? musing about why will come clearer in time?