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by JimC » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:43 am
Calilasseia wrote:Warren Dew wrote:FBM wrote:
I thought of your post the instant I saw the headline. I was waiting for your 'I told you so!'
This isn't the only place I'm getting to say that. There are so many people out there who don't understand which bombs are difficult, and which are easy. It's almost as if they're not nuclear engineers!
And you are?
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by Warren Dew » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:17 am
Calilasseia wrote:Warren Dew wrote:FBM wrote: I thought of your post the instant I saw the headline. I was waiting for your 'I told you so!'
This isn't the only place I'm getting to say that. There are so many people out there who don't understand which bombs are difficult, and which are easy. It's almost as if they're not nuclear engineers!
And you are?
Yes.
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by MiM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:56 am
FBM wrote:Tero wrote:Very iffy, not ready for release intelligence.
You don't suppose maybe the Pentagon is trying the WMD claim approach, like the one that backfired on them after the Iraq War?
Well it is the same guys that made those claims, isn't it? At least they are not claiming to be absolutely sure this time. Maybe they did learn at least something from that.
Currently I don't trust any claims about North Koreas weapons capability.
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by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:25 am
MiM wrote:FBM wrote:Tero wrote:Very iffy, not ready for release intelligence.
You don't suppose maybe the Pentagon is trying the WMD claim approach, like the one that backfired on them after the Iraq War?
Well it is the same guys that made those claims, isn't it? At least they are not claiming to be absolutely sure this time. Maybe they did learn at least something from that.
Currently I don't trust any claims about North Koreas weapons capability.
I don't trust much of anything I hear from anybody about the current situation.
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by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:09 am
Looks like China was massing its troops on the NK border to prevent/get ready for a mass exodus, rather than stepping to help NK.
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by Clinton Huxley » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:33 am
Did we establish why Kim hates FBM so much?
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by JimC » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:34 am
Nookie envy...
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by klr » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:40 am
That is what I had assumed from the get-go. Selfish national interests come first. China does not want a huge flood of poor huddled (and starving) masses from South of the Yalu.
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by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:50 am
Clinton Huxley wrote:Wars have been fought for less....
Up North, they talk about how beautiful KJU's wife is.
Any one of my avatars is better.
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by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:51 am
klr wrote:
That is what I had assumed from the get-go. Selfish national interests come first. China does not want a huge flood of poor huddled (and starving) masses from South of the Yalu.
Seems that China is taking the threat of war more seriously than anyone else. Wonder what that says...
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by MiM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:55 am
FBM wrote:klr wrote:
That is what I had assumed from the get-go. Selfish national interests come first. China does not want a huge flood of poor huddled (and starving) masses from South of the Yalu.
Seems that China is taking the threat of war more seriously than anyone else. Wonder what that says...
Might not only be the threat of war, but also the threat of full chaos in North Korea (ok, I guess that would be a kind war too).
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:55 am
JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Could this be an
invisible-WMD-type-ploy in order to justify pre-emptive action of some kind?
.......Or am I being overly cynical there?
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by MiM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:56 am
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:Could this be an
invisible-WMD-type-ploy in order to justify pre-emptive action of some kind?
.......Or am I being overly cynical there?
They're quantum WMDs, they only exist in an excited state.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:48 am
Cosmos wrote:From
independent.co.uk
China has sent North Korea its strongest warning yet not to “misjudge” the crisis on the Korean Peninsula, telling Pyongyang it “cannot shirk its responsibility” for ratcheting up tensions.
...The China Daily editorial said “any strong move” by America would worsen the crisis.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 67998.html
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